It's been said before, but I do think that the "Perl6" name is holding back adoption. Too many people think of the old Perl, and have no interest in looking at what's changed in a new version of the "same" language. Whatever the new name ultimately becomes, changing it (perhaps timed with a new major release of the Rakudo implementation), would do much to improve adoption.
Camelia could work, but I'll throw in another suggestion that's been in my head for a while: *PANL* - short for "Perl 6 is A New Language". Alternatively, its components can be referred to as the "PAN Language", "PAN Interpreter", "PAN Specification", etc with a possible logo being a frying pan (held by a camel?) mixing up all of the best language concepts & tools ;-) It's short and makes clear that this is a part of the Perl family (for those that care), while still conveying that it is, for all intents and purposes, a new language. -David On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:21 AM BELOSCAR Christian < christian.belos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Camelia : Excellent idea Eliza, I totally agree with yours arguments and > what a sympathetic non technical name > accorded with its logo and attracting young programmers too. I vote for > this choice with enthusiasm ! > > Chris > > Le lun. 12 août 2019 à 08:15, Eliza <e...@chinabuckets.com> a écrit : > >> Hello perl6 world, >> >> I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its >> name? >> >> Perl 6 was initially conceived to be the next version of Perl 5. It took >> way too long to mature to an initial release. Meanwhile, people >> interested in taking Perl 5 along, took back the reigns and continued >> developing Perl 5. >> >> Having two programming languages that are sufficiently different to not >> be source compatible, but only differ in what many perceive to be a >> version number, is hurting the image of both Perl 5 and Perl 6 in the >> world. Since the word "Perl" is still perceived as "Perl 5" in the >> world, it only seems fair that "Perl 6" changes its name. >> >> Since Larry has indicated, in his video message to the participants of >> PerlCon 2019 in Riga, that the two sister languages are now old and wise >> enough to take care of themselves, such a name change would no longer >> require the approval of the BDFL. >> >> I would therefore propose to change the name to "the Camelia Programming >> Language" or "Camelia" for short, for several reasons: >> >> the search term "camelia programming language" already brings you to the >> right place. This means that changing the name to "Camelia" will have >> minimal impact on findability on search engines such as Google and >> DuckDuckGo. >> >> the logo / mascot would not need changing: it's just that it now also >> becomes the actual name of the programming language. >> >> "Camelia" in its name, still carries something Perlish inside of it. >> >> The concept of "Camelia" being an implementation of a specification in >> "roast", still stands. The alternative, to use "Rakudo" as the name of >> the language, would cause confusion with the name being used to indicate >> an implementation, and would endanger the separation between >> specification and implementation. >> >> Choosing yet another name, such as Albus, would mean having to start >> from scratch with marketing and getting the name out there. Hence my >> preference for a known name such as "Camelia". >> >> The "Camelia" logo is still copyright Larry Wall, so it would allow >> Larry to still be connected to one of the programming languages that he >> helped get into the world. >> >> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/81 >> >> regards, >> Eliza >> >
