On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:04:45PM +1100, Karl Glazebrook wrote:
> I don't know how 'modern' PLplot is. The documentation still talks about 
> Tektronix terminals!
> 
> I did some googling, DISLIN seemed the closest but is only semi-frree.
> 
> In astronomy people really only use pgplot at the c/f77 level. (At a higher 
> level they use language specific graphics, e.g. IDL, IRAF, Python, sm (!), 
> gnuplot, MMA).
> 
> What about other scientific fields? What do people you know use?

In my field (computational quantum physics/chemistry), computation and
visualization are usually treated separately. Typically, the actual
numerical simulations are very heavy (taking CPU-days or even CPU-weeks on
current HPC-Clusters).
The visualization is performed in a separate step, where different "classes"
of tools are employed:
* Special purpuse tools for molecule/crystal visualization, which show:
  - crystal structures
  - densities either on cutting planes or as equipotential surfaces
  Tools belonging to this class are:
  - xcrysden http://www.xcrysden.org/
  - v-sim    http://www-drfmc.cea.fr/L_Sim/V_Sim/index.en.html
* General-purpose plotting tools with a focus on 2D-visualization:
  - gnuplot  http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/
  - grace    http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/
* General-purpose plotting tools with more focus on 3D-visualization:
  - OpenDX   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_OpenDX
    (Official website seems to be down)
    Learning curve is quite steep, interface is a bit awkward to use (for
    modern standards)
  - paraview http://www.paraview.org/
    Easier to use than OpenDX; very powerful visualization tool, integrated
    python scripting support for
    - sources (data generation)
    - filters (data processing)
    - general-purpose macros

> Looks dismal. Perhaps the moral is people who put significant effort in to 
> visuals tend to go commercial?

I don't think so. You can get quite good results out of free
visualization tools, altough sometimes you may have to tweak the settings a
bit. One very good example for this is gnuplot; the default settings have not
changed much in the past 20 years (think backwards compatibility), but with
some modifications in your gnuplot scripts, plots may look a lot more
attractive. This is one of the websites showing how to do this:
http://www.gnuplotting.org

For paraview, there are some good examples in the image gallery:
http://www.paraview.org/paraview/project/imagegallery.php


Maybe we have to go back to the question what _kind_ of visualization support
we need to have available directly within PDL.

In my opinion, a very simple plotting interface used mainly for
debugging/development is enough.
For anything beyond this, there are really good plotting tools available also
as free software, we just need to be able to export data in a format readable
by them.

-- 
c u
henning

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