If GNUplot can plot a million points or a 4096^2 image with a delay < 1s and no 
memory disaster then that would be fast enough for me.

I wish there was a better solution

Karl



On 04/03/2013, at 2:04 AM, Henning Glawe wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:04:45PM +1100, Karl Glazebrook wrote:
>> I don't know how 'modern' PLplot is. The documentation still talks about 
>> Tektronix terminals!
>> 
>> I did some googling, DISLIN seemed the closest but is only semi-frree.
>> 
>> In astronomy people really only use pgplot at the c/f77 level. (At a higher 
>> level they use language specific graphics, e.g. IDL, IRAF, Python, sm (!), 
>> gnuplot, MMA).
>> 
>> What about other scientific fields? What do people you know use?
> 
> In my field (computational quantum physics/chemistry), computation and
> visualization are usually treated separately. Typically, the actual
> numerical simulations are very heavy (taking CPU-days or even CPU-weeks on
> current HPC-Clusters).
> The visualization is performed in a separate step, where different "classes"
> of tools are employed:
> * Special purpuse tools for molecule/crystal visualization, which show:
>  - crystal structures
>  - densities either on cutting planes or as equipotential surfaces
>  Tools belonging to this class are:
>  - xcrysden http://www.xcrysden.org/
>  - v-sim    http://www-drfmc.cea.fr/L_Sim/V_Sim/index.en.html
> * General-purpose plotting tools with a focus on 2D-visualization:
>  - gnuplot  http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/
>  - grace    http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/
> * General-purpose plotting tools with more focus on 3D-visualization:
>  - OpenDX   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_OpenDX
>    (Official website seems to be down)
>    Learning curve is quite steep, interface is a bit awkward to use (for
>    modern standards)
>  - paraview http://www.paraview.org/
>    Easier to use than OpenDX; very powerful visualization tool, integrated
>    python scripting support for
>    - sources (data generation)
>    - filters (data processing)
>    - general-purpose macros
> 
>> Looks dismal. Perhaps the moral is people who put significant effort in to 
>> visuals tend to go commercial?
> 
> I don't think so. You can get quite good results out of free
> visualization tools, altough sometimes you may have to tweak the settings a
> bit. One very good example for this is gnuplot; the default settings have not
> changed much in the past 20 years (think backwards compatibility), but with
> some modifications in your gnuplot scripts, plots may look a lot more
> attractive. This is one of the websites showing how to do this:
> http://www.gnuplotting.org
> 
> For paraview, there are some good examples in the image gallery:
> http://www.paraview.org/paraview/project/imagegallery.php
> 
> 
> Maybe we have to go back to the question what _kind_ of visualization support
> we need to have available directly within PDL.
> 
> In my opinion, a very simple plotting interface used mainly for
> debugging/development is enough.
> For anything beyond this, there are really good plotting tools available also
> as free software, we just need to be able to export data in a format readable
> by them.
> 
> -- 
> c u
> henning


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