Hi,

Steve's mail argues for the current IETF position that
mandatory-to-implement (MTI) is the correct target IETF
specifications.

Some folks (me included to be honest) wonder if the current
situation argues for raising the bar there somewhat on the
basis that MTI security features are frequently turned off
or not sufficiently well tested to be usable. (Pick your
favourite example, mine are usually rfc4744 or Diameter
being run in clear.) And an upshot from that is that that
helps those who want to pervasively monitor everything.

Others argue that that'd be the IETF straying into the
space of policy - all we should do is define how to use
strong security features and make sure the code is there so
they can be turned on and the rest is policy.

I'm sure there are loads more arguments, and I do think
it'd be useful to see those discussed here.

Thanks,
Stephen.

PS: Our -00 privacy BCP doesn't go beyond MTI for now, but
were there consensus for that, I think it'd be good if we
could go further.


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