Thank you all for your thoughtful input.  It is greatly appreciated! 
 Insects are more of a concern than rodents and we will take all your 
contributions into consideration when selecting an upgrade.

Thank you again,
Alison

Associate Conservator
MFIT

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:43:11 AM UTC-5 jvo...@cwf.org wrote:

> Always good to know that there are good, better, and best options. A 
> nickle more to go first class…. if you get better exclusion results and 
> longevity. JTV
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> *From: *Pollack, Richard J
> *Sent: *Monday, February 1, 2021 9:37 AM
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> *To: *pest...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
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> Joel,
>
> Perhaps your rodents are better behaved than are ones I battle. Mice and 
> rats here regularly trim the bristles on brush style sweeps. They seem 
> unaware that the bristles will irritate their mouths. In contrast, we’ve 
> seen many try to chew through Xcluder strips. They get through the rubber 
> coating, but then invariably are blocked when they’ve hit the stainless 
> steel wool within. 
>
> -Rich
>
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> *Richard J. Pollack, PhD*
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> *From: *<pest...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of "Voron, Joel" <
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> *Date: *Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:26 AM
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> *Subject: *Re: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
>  
>
> We have had better success with the brush type door sweeps. Rodents seem 
> to not chew on these types as opposed to the rubber/latex ones and they 
> hold up to the elements way longer. It is believed that they do not like to 
> chew the brush ones because it has something to do with irritating their 
> teeth or mouths. JTV
>
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> *From:* pest...@googlegroups.com <pest...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
> Casey Mallinckrodt <casey.mal...@thewadsworth.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2021 5:42 PM
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> We anticipate installing sweeps in the very near future and these have 
> been recommended. I’d be interested if anyone has insights or experience 
> with them.
> https://buyxcluder.com/xcluder-commercial-pest-control-door-sweep-36.html 
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> Subject: RE: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
> We have interior doors that appear to be hollow and filled with Styrofoam 
> beadboard.  For a time we had mice getting into these and shredding the 
> Styrofoam, presumably to make nests.  I’m glad  to say that since we 
> managed to exclude mice from the building, this problem has gone away.  
> No-pne wanted to dismount the (large) doors to put metal plates on the 
> bottom…..
>
> Best,
>
> Helen
>
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> From: pest...@googlegroups.com <pest...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Pollack, Richard J
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> Subject: Re: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
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> For hollow doors that are on the interior of a building that is under 
> temperature control, then there would seem little value to weep holes. In 
> those cases, the holes can be blocked. A small square of aluminum flashing, 
> held in place with an appropriate adhesive (I like silicone) works wonders. 
> If you’re able to get your fingers under the door easily, then the repair 
> is simple. Sometimes, the doors need to be removed from their hinges. 
> That’s best left to locksmiths or other door repair folks.
>
> If the door is in an area that suffers from temperature and humidity 
> fluctuations (as with an exterior door), then consider a metal mesh. I’d 
> select something that is not oxidizing. Stainless steel hardware cloth 
> works well. Xcluder fabric will breath and allow water to pass, but it 
> would be difficult to secure it in place.
>
> I recommend that all doors be inspected and modified prior to 
> installation. It is far more costly and difficult to mitigate after the 
> doors have become mouse condos.
>
> In any case, be sure that any modifications do not compromise the fire 
> rating of the door. If in doubt, ask someone skilled in that arena.
>
> -Rich
>
>
>
> From: <pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>> on 
> behalf of Dan Wixted <dj...@cornell.edu<mailto:dj...@cornell.edu>>
> Reply-To: "pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>" <
> pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 2:17 PM
> To: "pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>" <
> pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: RE: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
> Richard,
>
> Thanks! In cases where they are weep holes, would you recommend the metal 
> mesh to allow moisture to escape? I’m wondering if there are issues of weep 
> holes are completely sealed.
>
> Dan Wixted                   Pesticide Management Education Program (PMEP)
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>
> From: pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com> <
> pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Pollack, Richard J
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 2:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
> Dan,
>
> Those holes are sometimes weep holes, but other times they’re formed into 
> the door bottom to help with handling during manufacturing. Mice readily 
> find these portals to an attractive and comfortable abode.
>
> I posted some images and suggestions here:
>
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> From: <pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>> on 
> behalf of Dan Wixted <dj...@cornell.edu<mailto:dj...@cornell.edu>>
> Reply-To: "pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>" <
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> Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 1:51 PM
> To: "pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>" <
> pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: RE: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
> Regarding Jef’s comment below, I believe the structural holes in the 
> bottom of metal doors are weep holes, put there to allow moisture to 
> escape. I can see where they could provide harborage for pests, but I 
> wonder if it would be better to screen them than to cover them; a question 
> to ask the door manufacturer, I think.
>
> --dan
>
> Dan Wixted                   Pesticide Management Education Program (PMEP)
> Cornell University           Ph (607) 255-7525
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>
> From: pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com> <
> pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Jef Taylor
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: pest...@googlegroups.com<mailto:pest...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [PestList] Door Sweep Recommendations
>
> I find single-blade doorsweeps almost useless, but that's mainly because 
> my museum is actually a zoo, and mice are a constant gnawing presence. 
> Xcluder sweeps are the best single blade doorsweeps against mice, which 
> quickly chew through vinyl or bristles in a very short time. I had another 
> problem, which is hollow metal doors with structural holes on the bottom 
> surface (where you can't see) which mice and insects love to use as 
> harborage. I ended up switching to the first style of doorsweep you showed 
> (an inexpensive similar product made by Frost King) to cover these holes.
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 10:46 AM alison_castaneda <alison_c...@fitnyc.edu
> <mailto:alison_c...@fitnyc.edu>> wrote:
> Greetings PestList,
>
> The Museum at FIT is looking to upgrade our door sweeps and would greatly 
> appreciate any input or recommendations.
>
> We currently have this style:
> [cid:image0...@01D6F666.860B6880]
> However, due to the frequently uneven floors, gaps are apparent beneath 
> the sweep.
>
> We're looking at this style:
> [cid:image0...@01D6F666.860B6880]
> We hope that the face-mount style will provide flexibility for uneven 
> floors that the under-mount style did not.
>
> Does anyone have preferred brands or words-of-wisdom for the replacement 
> process?  Any input is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Alison Castaneda
>
> Associate Conservator, MFIT
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