Maybe there is beer involved.

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This thread is really tickling me, I can't stop giggling. Sorry, I realise this 
is off topic, but it reminds me of something I saw on the web years ago, which 
are 'animal essences' that you can purchase, to give you the 'vibe' of that 
animal. https://www.animalessence.com/

 How are they made?

' No animals are captured or harmed to develop these products. The essences are 
made during a ceremonial process in the Virginia wilderness. This ceremonial 
process includes attuning with and invoking the spirit of the animal involved. 
The resulting liquid contains the energy of the animal but does not contain any 
animal parts.'

 I still can't get past 'the resulting liquid'...


Ok, sorry again for the distraction, back to work!

Cheers,

Tonya

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It’s not the bottling of the urine that boggles the mind.

Who is milking it out of the cougar?

Or better yet, out of a bear?



The researcher in me couldn’t leave this alone.

Article: “How Do We Collect The Pee?”

https://www.predatorpeestore.com/How-Do-We-Collect-The-Pee-.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_ciKo8Xd7gIVHz6tBh0B5Qf7EAAYASAAEgJtpfD_BwE



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The Dalles, Oregon 97058

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www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/>



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Man, I thought I had an unusual job, but there is someone out there bottling 
cougar urine eight hours a day.





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Assistant Conservator

Arms & Armor Conservation

The Metropolitan Museum of Art
New York, NY

1000 5th Avenue, 10028

(917) 612-0379<tel:%28917%29%20612-0379>



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I was astounded to find I could purchase critter urine of all kinds at our 
local sporting goods store. I bought mine at Bi-Mart. Anyplace that sells 
supplies for hunters will likely have it.



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The Dalles, Oregon 97058

collecti...@gorgediscovery.org<mailto:collecti...@gorgediscovery.org>

541-296-8600 ext. 242

www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/>



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Just curious where one can get cougar urine, particularly at short notice? 😉.



Tonya

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I agree that predator urine is the best non-toxic deterrent to pest mammals. I 
had great success in encouraging skunks to vacate the premises under my house 
when I sprinkled cougar urine liberally around the hole they dug.



Bear urine might be effective, or perhaps you can find some wolf urine 
(although I should think coyote, while non-native to the UK, would have the 
same effect as wolf?



I’m finding an ad online for “thepeemart.com<http://thepeemart.com>”  and they 
sell wolf urine as well. $21.99 in US dollars, so not very expensive.



We have foxes at our museum, but since we have 54 acres and are in a semi-arid 
climate, there’s no well-manicured lawn to disrupt, only native plants in the 
landscape. Rattlesnakes and scorpions, however, are a different problem.



Susan Buce, Museum Registrar

Columbia Gorge Discovery Center and Museum

5000 Discovery Drive

The Dalles, Oregon 97058

collecti...@gorgediscovery.org<mailto:collecti...@gorgediscovery.org>

541-296-8600 ext. 242

www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/>



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Dear pesty people

Thanks, I’ll pass this over to our contractor

Adie

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I agree with the suggestion of coyote scent. One of my outdoorsy co-workers 
suggested that the foxes might not like human scent, but that may depend on how 
tame they have become.

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The foxes may still be scared of the scent. May smell like some strange new 
monster to them. JTV



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thanks Joel but we don't have coyotes in the UK!



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Maybe order some coyote urine and place that around for a couple of days and 
see if that could get them to move on? Should be a cheap experiment. JTV





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Hi folks



the foxes have started digging up into our lovely lawns in the front of the 
British Museum.



We know where they live and have been working with the private residences to 
deal with this.



Has anyone had any success with sound emitters or water squirt jets?



regards

Adie



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