I agree that they’re likely phorid flies. Consider placing the puparia (on or 
off the glue trap) in a container that is secured with fine screening. Then, 
see what emerges. A small drop of a concentrated citrus oil (such as in the 
product GooGone) tends to help loosen the glue just enough to allow the objects 
to be removed without much damage. Use the solvent sparingly so as not to harm 
the developing beast.

-Rich

Richard J. Pollack, PhD
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
Environmental Health and Safety (EH&S)
Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
46 Blackstone St.
Cambridge, MA 02139
Office: 617-495-2995  Cell: 617-447-0763
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] Larvae in historic out building

Thanks Gretchen and Tony! I have forwarded this info to the concerned party.

Gretchen, I don’t think they’re interested in saving any of the specimens, but 
I wouldn’t mind hearing her advice, in case I’m ever asked for help!

Fran Ritchie, Conservator (Objects)
Harpers Ferry Center
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American Institute for Conservation Professional Associate (peer-reviewed)

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Hi Fran,
Our entomologist agrees with Dr. Irwin - probably a carrion feeding larva, who 
crawled off the carcass to pupate. She is curious on how the trap was set up.  
She also has some cool tips on how to get samples off a sticky trap - if you 
are interested.  Let me know.

Gretchen
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
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Hi Fran
The "larvae" are puparia (pupa inside last larval skin) of scuttle flies - 
Phoridae. Several species are to be found feeding on carrion (while others feed 
on fungi, or are internal parasites of various invertebrates). I think the 
skink is the most likely source of the flies.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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phone: +44(0)1603 453524


On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 19:37, 'Ritchie, Fran E' via MuseumPests 
<pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hello again!



More larvae to ID. This is a photo I received from someone asking for help, so 
I can’t get a closer image. To me, they look like fly larvae, but I don’t think 
they’re feasting on the snake(?) on the trap. Should staff be on the lookout 
for another dead animal? Am I misidentifying a wood-boring pest?



This trap is from an open air wooden structure on Cumberland Island (off the 
coast of Georgia). It does not house objects.



Bonus points if you can ID the snake.



Thank you!



Fran Ritchie, Conservator (Objects)

Harpers Ferry Center

fran_ritc...@nps.gov<mailto:fran_ritc...@nps.gov>



American Institute for Conservation Professional Associate (peer-reviewed)


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