Based on the photos, if you bag and freeze it, I don't see any problems. Tom Parker
-----Original Message----- From: Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2022 2:02 pm Subject: RE: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage <!--#yiv7576269666 _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv7576269666 #yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666MsoNormal, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666MsoNormal, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 a:link, #yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7576269666 a:visited, #yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7576269666 p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msonormal0, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msonormal0, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msonormal0, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msonormal0, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msonormal, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msonormal, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msochpdefault, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msochpdefault, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msochpdefault {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msonormal1, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msonormal1, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msonormal1 {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msonormal01, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msonormal01, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msonormal01 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 p.yiv7576269666msochpdefault1, #yiv7576269666 li.yiv7576269666msochpdefault1, #yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666msochpdefault1 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666msohyperlink {}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle18 {}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle19 {}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle20 {}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666msohyperlink1 {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle181 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle191 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666emailstyle201 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv7576269666 span.yiv7576269666EmailStyle35 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv7576269666 .yiv7576269666MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv7576269666 div.yiv7576269666WordSection1 {}-->I don’t think we can remove the claw. Here are some images of the composite object. No feathers. It has the claw and wood at the core and is wrapped with beadwork with leather fringes at the end and ribbon details up by the claw. Could this object be freeze-treated as a whole object? We have found a bore hole into the claw. I don’t have an image just yet but it’s a pretty clear, irregular hole bored into it. Attached is an image of the bug we found—about the size of the hole. Another group member thought there might be some larvae and those images are attached too. Freezing recommendations for this object? Thanks, Jodi From: 'bugman22' via MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 4:37 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage Jodi - Carpet beetle excrement (frass). If there are feathers, closely examine them for larvae. If you are certain no larvae are feeding on the feathers, then proceed as follows: If you can remove the claw, you can safely freeze it to insure no further damage. Recommended -20 F for 3 days, then allow it to acclimate to room temperature slowly. Tom Parker -----Original Message----- From: Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 6:27 pm Subject: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage Hello all, We have a ceremonial wand on display with an eagle claw in it. This past week we discovered a bit of debris under a section of it. Some bits are larger and irregularly sized and look like bits of the claw’s skin/scales that were losses. There is also a very small yellowish white particulate that has a very regular size and shape to the particles. We lightly brushed the claw off and more of this fell to the Mylar we were collecting it on. The claw is still on display after sweeping up the debris. It seems stable and we don’t see any additional particles loosed from it or created otherwise over the weekend. Image is attached. We don’t have a microscope so I did the best I could to capture this. We found no bugs in the case when we first saw the bits but a day or two later when we went to remove and examine it we saw a small unidentified black bug and some small wings in the case. No new debris was found though. These particles are really small, in the 1/10 millimeter size perhaps. This is outside of my realm of expertise. If anyone has experience with the preservation of eagle claws and what may be going on here I’d love your opinion. Is it an insect infestation (frass)? Is there a preservative issue we need to contend with (could this be arsenic?!?)? What should I do? It has been stable for days and we are monitoring it daily now. Any and all help and advice appreciated! Jodi Lundgren Collections Manager The Indian Museum of North America® Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation 12151 Avenue of the Chiefs Crazy Horse, SD 57730-8900 Phone (605) 673-4681 jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org www.crazyhorsememorial.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MuseumPests" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email topestlist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/SN6PR02MB54218CAA11F8DB948F03124B95299%40SN6PR02MB5421.namprd02.prod.outlook.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MuseumPests" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email topestlist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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