A-ha!  Thank you so much!

I’ll pass that information along.

--Nancy

From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dr 
Tony Irwin
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 11:50 AM
To: pestlist@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PestList] RE: insect id request

The second photo helps a lot. I'd say this is one of the moth-flies 
(Psychodidae). The pattern on the wings indicate it is Psychoda surcoufi or a 
closely related species.
The flies breed in bacterial or fungal slime that accumulates in drains. The 
adults are attracted to light, so if there is a light in the case, they will 
try to find a way in. They won't do any damage to the case contents.
Regards,
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 18:19, Jenner, Nancy@Parks 
<nancy.jen...@parks.ca.gov<mailto:nancy.jen...@parks.ca.gov>> wrote:
I’ll do my best!
(sorry for the awkwardness of a second-hand ID request!)

--Nancy

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<pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenn 
Cruickshank -MSA-
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You don't often get email from 
jenn.cruicksh...@maryland.gov<mailto:jenn.cruicksh...@maryland.gov>. Learn why 
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Nancy,

This looks vaguely similar to a whitefly to me though they feed on plants, not 
leather.  Could you narrow this down by sending her some pictures of similar 
flying insects and ask her what looks most similar or what features differ?

Best
Jenn


Jenn Foltz Cruickshank
Senior Conservator
Maryland State Archives
350 Rowe Boulevard
Annapolis, MD 21401
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410-260-6413


On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 3:39 PM Jenner, Nancy@Parks 
<nancy.jen...@parks.ca.gov<mailto:nancy.jen...@parks.ca.gov>> wrote:
Unfortunately, no.

I did receive a similarly fuzzy photo that shows another (fuzzy) angle on one 
of the insects.

--Nancy

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any chance of a better photo?

Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation
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Sorry it took a little while, I had to ask through channels....

No live plants, and the only place these insects are observed is inside a 
display case.

Thanks,
Nancy


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Are there live plants in this structure?

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  Conservation Dept.
     Integrated Pest Management Specialist
      Office 757-220-7080
        Cell 757-634-1175
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Hello-I'm posting this for an anonymous friend.....   These small, flying 
insects are inside a case that contains items made of feather and fur.   They 
said they were not able to get a better photo, because the insects move too 
quickly.  I was expecting to see carpet beetles, but that's not what I can make 
out in this photo.   The friend said the insects are under 2mm.  This is in 
coastal California.

Any assistance is welcome.

Sincerely,
Nancy Jenner

Museum Curator II
California State Parks, Statewide Museum Collections Center

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