Barry, I tried with the true_residual_norm option and it gives me the
exact same convergence as the one I have shown before.

 45 KSP Residual norm 2.511364148934e-07
   45 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.511364148934e-07 true resid norm
1.865039278877e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.699481989705e+02
   46 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.307034672896e-07 true resid norm
1.864478183180e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.724877015479e+02
 46 KSP Residual norm 1.307034672896e-07
   46 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.307034672896e-07 true resid norm
1.864478183180e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.724877015479e+02
   47 KSP preconditioned resid norm 7.105770015635e-08 true resid norm
1.864563163311e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.722662760395e+02
 47 KSP Residual norm 7.105770015635e-08
   47 KSP preconditioned resid norm 7.105770015635e-08 true resid norm
1.864563163311e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.722662760395e+02
   48 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.098578230710e-08 true resid norm
1.864560351328e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.690284539995e+02
 48 KSP Residual norm 4.098578230710e-08
   48 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.098578230710e-08 true resid norm
1.864560351328e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.690284539995e+02
   49 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.426160176080e-08 true resid norm
1.864897210364e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.696456942624e+02
 49 KSP Residual norm 2.426160176080e-08
   49 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.426160176080e-08 true resid norm
1.864897210364e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.696456942624e+02
   50 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.864914790828e+02 true resid norm
1.864914790828e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.798875072987e+02
 50 KSP Residual norm 1.864914790828e+02
   50 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.864914790828e+02 true resid norm
1.864914790828e+02 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 2.798875072987e+02
   51 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.741080961009e+01 true resid norm
6.759768469363e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 1.666964983874e+02
 51 KSP Residual norm 6.741080961009e+01
   51 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.741080961009e+01 true resid norm
6.759768469363e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 1.666964983874e+02
   52 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.191621875736e+01 true resid norm
5.146342142561e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 7.225409161988e+01
 52 KSP Residual norm 5.191621875736e+01
   52 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.191621875736e+01 true resid norm
5.146342142561e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 7.225409161988e+01
   53 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.513782866249e+01 true resid norm
4.546883708687e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 7.426476446334e+01
 53 KSP Residual norm 4.513782866249e+01
   53 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.513782866249e+01 true resid norm
4.546883708687e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 7.426476446334e+01
   54 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.320195603375e+01 true resid norm
3.297361634749e+01 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 5.285029509147e+01


Vijay

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Jed Brown wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 21:04, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>> This is a sign that the preconditioner is seriously messed up and should not 
>> be used in its current form. ?It can happen if the matrix is nearly singular 
>> and for example you use an incomplete factorization for a preconditioner 
>> that just screws up the scaling like totally. Run with 
>> -ksp_monitor_true_residual and you'll see that the solver is not really 
>> solving the problem even though it thinks it is converging fine.
>>
>> FGMRES only does right preconditioning so it should be showing the true 
>> residual.
>
> ?No because it uses a recursive formula for "computing" the residual norm it 
> does not compute it explicitly. So in extreme circumstances the recursively 
> compute one generates "garbage".
>
> ? Barry
>
>
>

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