On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:24, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Strawmen.  If we provide a good upgrade capability, we would just 
> > simply have to think about upgrades before changing features like 
> > that.  The upgrade code could be cognizant of these sorts of things; 
> > and shoud be, in fact.
> 
> Sure but IMHO it would be more important to fix bugs like the parser not 
> correctly using indexes on bigint unless the value is quoted...
> 
> I think everyone would agree that not having to use initdb would be nice 
> but I think there is much more important things to focus on.
> 
> Besides if you are upgrading PostgreSQL in a production environment I 
> would assume there would be an extremely valid reason. If the reason is 
> big enough to do a major version upgrade then an initdb shouldn't be all 
> that bad of a requirement.

Hmmm.  A (US-oriented) hypothetical:
BOSS: The app works now.  Why rock the boat?
DBA: The new version has features that will save 20% disk space, 
     and speed up certain operations by 75% every day.
BOSS: Fantastic!  How long will it take to upgrade?
DBA: 18 hours.
BOSS: 18 hours!!  We can only take that much downtime on Thanks-
      giving weekend, or 3-day July 4th, Christmas or New Year's
      weekends.

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