> And how do you guarantee that after a failure?  You're restoring two
> different sets of data here:

> How do you link them together on that specific operation?  Or even on a daily
> basis, if you get corrupted data...

I answered that already.

> Not counting that depending on your choice of filesystem and image size you
> might get a very poor performance.
apache has very good page and image caching. You could take advantage of that using this technique.

Another nice feature is the database and images can be handled spearately. Some people have seen this as a disadvantage on this thread, I personally don't see it that why.

I guess it depends on access needs, many files and how much data you have. What if you had 3 billion files across a few hundred terabytes? Can you say with experience how the database would hold up in this situation?

andrew



Jorge Godoy wrote:
Andrew Chernow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I mean, how do you handle integrity with data
outside the database?
You don't, the file system handles integrity of the stored data.  Although,
one must careful to avoid db and fs orphans.  Meaning, a record with no
corresponding file or a file with no corresponging record.  Always
write()/insert an image file to the system within a transaction, including
writing the image out to the fs.  Make sure to unlink any paritally written
image files.

And how do you guarantee that after a failure?  You're restoring two
different sets of data here:
          - backup from your database
          - backup from your files

How do you link them together on that specific operation?  Or even on a daily
basis, if you get corrupted data...

How do you plan your backup routine
In regards to backup, backup the files one-by-one.  Grab the lastest image
file refs from the database and start backing up those images.  Each
successfully backed up image should be followed by inserting that file's
database record into a remote db server.  If anything fails, cleanup the
partial image file (to avoid orphaned data) and rollout the transaction.

just one idea.  i'm sure there are other ways of doing it.  point is, this is
completely possible to do reliably.

Wouldn't replication with, e.g., Slony be easier?  And wouldn't letting the
database handle all the integrity be easier?  I mean, create an "images" table
and then make your record depends on this table, so if there's no record with
the image, you won't have any references to it left.
It would also make the backup plan easier: backup the database.

Not counting that depending on your choice of filesystem and image size you
might get a very poor performance.



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