Magnus Hagander <mag...@hagander.net> writes: > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 7:57 PM Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote: >> Openssh has now integrated [1] a patch to remove the dependency on >> libsystemd >> for triggering service manager readyness notifications, by inlining the >> necessary function. That's not hard, the protocol is pretty simple. >> I suspect we should do the same. We're not even close to being a target as >> attractive as openssh, but still, it seems unnecessary.
> +1. I didn't read the patch, but if it's short and stable enough then this seems like a good idea. (If openssh and we are using such a patch, that will probably be a big enough stake in the ground to prevent somebody deciding to change the protocol ...) >> An argument could be made to instead just remove support, but I think it's >> quite valuable to have intra service dependencies that can rely on the >> server actually having started up. > If we remove support we're basically just asking most of our linux > packagers to add it back in, and they will add it back in the same way we > did it. I think we do everybody a disservice if we do that. It's useful > functionality. Yeah, that idea seems particularly silly in view of the desire expressed earlier in this thread to reduce the number of patches carried by packagers. People packaging for systemd-using distros will not consider that this functionality is optional. regards, tom lane