On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:05 PM Alexander Korotkov
<a.korot...@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:22 AM David G. Johnston
> <david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Alexander Korotkov 
> > <a.korot...@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
> >>
> >> The current version of patch doesn't really distinguish spaces and
> >> delimiters in format string in non-FX mode.  So, spaces and delimiters
> >> are forming single group.  For me Oracle behavior is ridiculous at
> >> least because it doesn't allow cases when input string exactly matches
> >> format string.
> >>
> >> This one fails:
> >> SELECT to_timestamp('2018- -01 02', 'YYYY- -MM DD') FROM dual
> >
> > Related to below - since this works today it should continue to work.  I 
> > was under the wrong impression that we followed their behavior today and 
> > were pondering deviating from it because of its ridiculousness.
>
> Right, that's just incompatibility with Oracle behavior, not with our
> previous behavior.
>
> >> > The couple of regression tests that change do so for the better.  It 
> >> > would be illuminating to set this up as two patches though, one 
> >> > introducing all of the new regression tests against the current code and 
> >> > then a second patch with the changed behavior with only the affected 
> >> > tests.
> >>
> >> OK, here you go.  0001-to_timestamp-regression-test-v17.patch
> >> introduces changes in regression tests and their output for current
> >> master, while 0002-to_timestamp-format-checking-v17.patch contain
> >> changes to to_timestamp itself.
> >>
> >
> > From those results the question is how important is it to force the 
> > following breakage on our users (i.e., introduce FX exact symbol matching):
> >
> > SELECT to_timestamp('97/Feb/16', 'FXYY:Mon:DD');
> > -         to_timestamp
> > -------------------------------
> > - Sun Feb 16 00:00:00 1997 PST
> > -(1 row)
> > -
> > +ERROR:  unexpected character "/", expected character ":"
> > +HINT:  In FX mode, punctuation in the input string must exactly match the 
> > format string.
> >
> > There seemed to be some implicit approvals of this breakage some 30 emails 
> > and 10 months ago but given that this is the only change from a correct 
> > result to a failure I'd like to officially put it out there for 
> > opinion/vote gathering.   Mine is a -1; though keeping the distinction 
> > between space and non-alphanumeric characters is expected.
>
> Do I understand correctly that you're -1 to changes to FX mode, but no
> objection to changes in non-FX mode?
>
Ditto.

Regards,
Amul Sul.

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