Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> writes:
> I cannot reasonably plan some queries with join_collapse_limit set to 20. At 
> least not without setting the geqo limit very low and a geqo_effort to a low 
> value.
> So I would definitely not agree that removing j_c_l is a good idea. 

Can you show some specific examples?  All of this discussion seems like
speculation in a vacuum ...

                        regards, tom lane

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