On 3/23/12 7:38 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
And here are the latency results for 95th-100th percentile with
checkpoint_timeout=16min.

ckpt.master.13: 1703, 1830, 2166, 17953, 192434, 43946669
ckpt.master.14: 1728, 1858, 2169, 15596, 187943, 9619191
ckpt.master.15: 1700, 1835, 2189, 22181, 206445, 8212125

The picture looks similar here.  Increasing checkpoint_timeout isn't
*quite*  as good as spreading out the fsyncs, but it's pretty darn
close.  For example, looking at the median of the three 98th
percentile numbers for each configuration, the patch bought us a 28%
improvement in 98th percentile latency.  But increasing
checkpoint_timeout by a minute bought us a 15% improvement in 98th
percentile latency.  So it's still not clear to me that the patch is
doing anything on this test that you couldn't get just by increasing
checkpoint_timeout by a few more minutes.  Granted, it lets you keep
your inter-checkpoint interval slightly smaller, but that's not that
exciting.  That having been said, I don't have a whole lot of trouble
believing that there are other cases where this is more worthwhile.

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss increasing checkpoint frequency (ie: 
decreasing checkpoint_timeout).

On a high-value production system you're going to care quite a bit about 
recovery time. I certainly wouldn't want to run our systems with 
checkpoint_timeout='15 min' if I could avoid it.

Another $0.02: I don't recall the community using pg_bench much at all to 
measure latency... I believe it's something fairly new. I point this out 
because I believe there are differences in analysis that you need to do for TPS 
vs latency. I think Robert's graphs support my argument; the numeric 
X-percentile data might not look terribly good, but reducing peak latency from 
100ms to 60ms could be a really big deal on a lot of systems. My intuition is 
that one or both of these patches actually would be valuable in the real world; 
it would be a shame to throw them out because we're not sure how to performance 
test them...
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