On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 05:52:43PM -0400, Robert Treat wrote: > On Thursday 12 May 2005 01:32, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > FWIW, I don't see the issue as "internal vs external" at all. > > > What's bothering me is whether these views can be considered > > > sufficiently more stable and better designed than the physical > > > system catalogs to justify recommending that application > > > designers should rely on the views instead of the catalogs. > > > That point doesn't seem to me to have been proven. The recent > > > arguments in favor seem to boil down to "novices will find these > > > easier to use", which is very possibly true, but novices don't > > > have the same needs as programs. > > > > As lead phpPgAdmin developer, I'm officially in favour of them. > > The main reason being all the extra fruit they have that shows > > database size, etc. > > > > As non-lead phpPgAdmin developer, I'd be against using them in > phppgadmin. (note this doesnt mean I am against them in pgsql > itself)
On what grounds? > > That means we can display this meta information in phpPgAdmin and > > not worry about having to re-implement it all. > > > > You have to query something... doesn't bother me to go to the > source. A PostgreSQL developer has shown in this very thread that it is extremely easy to screw up a query against those catalogs. Maybe you're better than he is, but that's not a reason to keep something simpler out. Cheers, D -- David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100 mobile: +1 415 235 3778 Remember to vote! ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])