Chris Browne wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Berkus) writes: > > Bruce, > > > > Realistically I just don't see getting everything in the ToDo patch > > list in; my vote is that we start deferring stuff for 8.4 if it > > doesn't have a reviewer, except for items which were submitted early > > in the cycle (and to whom it would be unfair). > > > > If that means shortening the 8.4 cycle somewhat, I'm for that > > ... feature freeze in Feburary would be even better than April, > > because it means we could be in Beta for the May-June-July > > conferences, and increase our probability of being able to release > > at a major conference or PostgreSQL conference. > > If we're pushing stuff planned for 8.3 off into 8.4, then doesn't that > mean that we'd be inclined to _lengthen_ the 8.4 cycle? > > If we were to shorten the 8.4 cycle, that seems likely to me to worsen > the problem, so that I'd expect to see even more stuff deferred for > 8.5 than was the case with 8.3...
And, as I remember, we already deferred some stuff during 8.2 for 8.3. :-( > > Obviously for 8.4 reviewers need to start reviewing stuff from the > > first week of the development cycle. I also don't actually see > > anything wrong with a 3-month feature freeze if we can somehow > > branch development earlier. Easy for me to say, I know. > > Well, if people are essentially already working on patches for 8.4 > *now*, but just deferring merging until after 8.3 is committed + > released, then we've got 8.4 work underway already. > > Unfortunately, that's also likely to worsen the problem of the > reviewers' queues being even more overflowing. > > I'd sorta like to see the Tom Lanes and Bruce Momjians of the project > getting to have some time to work on things that *they'd* like add, as > opposed to turning things into a spiral cycle where they keep spending > more and more of their time reviewing patches, as opposed to doing > things they find neat and new. Too many iterations of that sort of > thing, and they'll not want to ever see a patch again... Another good summary. Myself, I have always done what no one wanted to do so that more people can do what they want to do, and I am OK with that. It helps the project move forward faster than if I did only what I wanted to do. -- Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly