On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As for tipping points and pg_bench -- It doesn't seem to reflect the kind of 
> workload we use postgres for at all, though my workload does a lot of big 
> hashes and seqscans, and I'm curious how much improved those may be due to 
> the hash improvements.  32GB RAM and 3TB data (about 250GB scanned regularly) 
> here.  And yes, we are almost completely CPU bound now except for a few 
> tasks.  Iostat only reports above 65% disk utilization for about 5% of the 
> workload duty-cycle, and is regularly < 20%.  COPY doesn't get anywhere near 
> platter speeds, on indexless bulk transfer.  The highest disk usage spikes 
> occur when some of our radom-access data/indexes get shoved out of cache.  
> These aren't too large, but high enough seqscan load will cause postgres and 
> the OS to dump them from cache.  If we put these on some SSD's the disk 
> utilization % would drop a lot further.

It definitely reflects our usage pattern, which is very random and
involves tiny bits of data scattered throughout the database.  Our
current database is about 20-25 Gig, which means it's quickly reaching
the point where it will not fit in our 32G of ram, and it's likely to
grow too big for 64Gig before a year or two is out.

> I feel confident in saying that in about a year, I could spec out a medium 
> sized budget for hardware ($25k) for almost any postgres setup and make it 
> almost pure CPU bound.
> SSDs and hybrid tech such as ZFS L2ARC make this possible with easy access to 
> 10k+ iops, and it it will take no more than 12 SATA drives in raid 10 next 
> year (and a good controller or software raid) to get 1GB/sec sequential reads.

Lucky you, having needs that are fulfilled by sequential reads.  :)

I wonder how many hard drives it would take to be CPU bound on random
access patterns?  About 40 to 60?  And probably 15k / SAS drives to
boot.  Cause that's what we're looking at in the next few years where
I work.

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