have you tried a right Join?Daniel Hernndez.San Diego, CA."The more you learn, 
the more you earn".Fax: (808) 442-0427-----Original Message-----From: "Edward 
W. Rouse" [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 08/15/2008 09:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: 
[SQL] Join question             I have 2 tables, both have a user column. I am 
currently using a left join from table a to table b because I need to show all 
users from table a even those not having an entry in table b. The problem is I 
also have to include items from table b with that have a null user. There are 
some other criteria as well that are simple where clause filters. So as an 
example:     Table a:  Org|user  A    | emp1  B    | emp1  B    | emp2  B    | 
emp3  C    | emp2     Table b:  Org|user|color  A   |emp1|red  A   |emp1|blue  
A   |null|pink  A   |null|orange  B   |emp1|red  B   |emp3|red  B   
|null|silver  C   |emp2|avacado     If I:     select org, user, count(total)  
from a left join b  on (a.org = b.org and a.user = b.user)  where a.org = ‘A’  
group by a.org, a.user  order by a.org, a.user     I get:     Org|user|count  
A    |emp1|2  A    |emp2|0  A    |emp3|0     But what I need is:     A    
|emp1|2  A    |emp2|0  A    |emp3|0  A    |null|2     Thanks,  Edward W. Rouse  
      

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