I then signalled the semaphores (Alt-S in the process browser and the
processes went away).

Size of SHRange is now: SHRange allInstances size. 217381 (After a couple
GCs).

Are these things created when one views methods in the browser ?

Phil



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be>wrote:

> I had a look at the process browser and found this strange set of
> processes with semaphores and style in background.
> How comes?
> There is no browser open even.
>
> See screenshot attached.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's a tad weird.
>>
>> I am quite concerned about that image ballooning effect.
>>
>> I've got a dev image and it is now 185.515.948
>>
>> I did the flush thing
>>
>> MCFileBasedRepository flushAllCaches.
>> 3 timesRepeat: [Smalltalk garbageCollect].
>>
>> and now, it is 158.740.484
>>
>> SpaceTally new printSpaceAnalysis
>>
>> shows:
>>
>> Class                                          code space # instances
>>  inst space     percent   inst average size
>>  Array                                                3712      817192
>>    31395576       19.30               38.42
>> Float                                               13047     1313593
>>  15763116        9.70               12.00
>> ByteString                                           2785      378125
>>  13078821        8.00               34.59
>> MorphExtension                                       3097      157557
>>  10713876        6.60               68.00
>> Bitmap                                               3653        1975
>>  10198648        6.30             5163.87
>> TextMethodLink                                        419      392396
>>   9417504        5.80               24.00
>> Point                                                7105      711444
>>   8537328        5.30               12.00
>> CompiledMethod                                      22467       82802
>>   5215856        3.20               62.99
>> SHRange                                              1919      217316
>>   4346320        2.70               20.00
>> Rectangle                                            8795      325385
>>   3904620        2.40               12.00
>> TableLayoutProperties                                1169       49629
>>   3573288        2.20               72.00
>> Semaphore                                             949      149195
>>   2983900        1.80               20.00
>>
>> A ton of MorphExtensions (which is a know problem).
>>
>> but also quite some TextMethodLinks, which I do not understand.
>> SHRange, from styling things I guess, lots of remnants.
>>
>> And quite a bunch of Semaphores, too much I think.
>>
>> Tons of Arrays and floats. I do a lot of NeoCSV loads in the image.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 15:51, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
>>>
>>> > Image size goes back to:
>>> >
>>> > 29.068.612
>>> >
>>> > Looks like all package contents are cached in the image…
>>>
>>> But by a factor 3 ??
>>>
>>> > Phil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>> marianop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Phil, what happens if you evaluate (and save after) to the big image:
>>> >
>>> > MCFileBasedRepository flushAllCaches.
>>> > 3 timesRepeat: [Smalltalk garbageCollect].
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:30 AM, p...@highoctane.be <
>>> p...@highoctane.be> wrote:
>>> > [User.Techlab] → du -hs package-cache
>>> > 5.3M    package-cache
>>> >
>>> > Phil
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>> > What is the total size of the package-cache, like du -hs ?
>>> > Could it be the same size of the difference in image size ?
>>> > That would mean that the contents of the packages themselves is cached
>>> in the image...
>>> >
>>> > On 11 Nov 2013, at 10:39, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I am experiencing the following while loading my configuration.
>>> > >
>>> > > REPO=http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/philippeback/HOWebStack/main
>>> > > ./pharo Pharo.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfHOWebStack
>>> --install=0.4
>>> > >
>>> > > Everything loads fine.
>>> > >
>>> > > But:
>>> > >
>>> > > with a package-cache/ empty, the final image is: 44.452.060 with a
>>> changes file of: 10.831.877
>>> > >
>>> > > with a primed package-cache (meaning, letting the mczs in place and
>>> starting with a fresh image), the final image is: 29.480.912 with a changes
>>> file of: 10.830.899
>>> > >
>>> > > That's quite a huge difference.
>>> > >
>>> > > I tried again to be sure (fresh image and empty package-cache, then
>>> fresh image only) and, weirdly enough, even if the difference in size was
>>> the same, the sizes themselves weren't.the same...
>>> > >
>>> > > 44.446.152 - 10.830.899
>>> > > 29.986.284 - 10.831.543
>>> > >
>>> > > Maybe that's due to a GC occurring differently between the two.
>>> > >
>>> > > But this gives the impression that one cannot load a base image,
>>> apply a configuration, and end up with the same image twice. Weird.
>>> > >
>>> > > Why is this difference so large in the first place ?
>>> > >
>>> > > Phil
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mariano
>>> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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