We have that list too: Page 3 of http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf
Or this version: http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2012-May/004059.html Now that I see this list again, I feel that it should be part of the image. On 30 Apr 2014, at 23:33, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally I am very interested to see how developers see Pharo, because the > way they see it is also the future of Pharo the directions it is going. So > while some may find these type of discussion derailing its very important for > the direction of Pharo. > > Even though its very important to add code to Pharo and enhance and bug fix, > its also very important to have a clear vision that the community agrees on. > > The discussion also has raised some important issues of how Pharo is > promoted, obviously Promotion of Pharo is a rather huge deal for Pharo > future. I see these Emails as the start of a very long process in the future > of Pharo where the community tries to feel in the dark its path and the > values it represents. Its also important to get the message (Pharo is all > about messages afterall) loud and clear to newcomers or people considering > giving Pharo a try. > > Sean I am definitely interested in the discussion and your opinion, I have > very little to contribute to it, but its great to hear the opinion of people > that have very large experience of Smalltalk. > > Some say "opinions are like assholes everyone has one" (no intention to be > rude) but my belief is opinions however wrong they may be, do matter because > they reveal personal needs , desires and dreams. Pharo like every other > product out there is made to please people and accommodate for these things. > > Also these discussions are far from exclusive to Pharo. I am coming from > Python there there is the Zen of Pharo. > > " > • Beautiful is better than ugly. > • Explicit is better than implicit. > • Simple is better than complex. > • Complex is better than complicated. > • Flat is better than nested. > • Sparse is better than dense. > • Readability counts. > • Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. > • Although practicality beats purity. > • Errors should never pass silently. > • Unless explicitly silenced. > • In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess. > • There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. > • Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're > Dutch. > • Now is better than never. > • Although never is often better than right now. > • If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. > • If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea. > • NameSpaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! > > • " > This started as a joke from a single guy. Then it was included as a module in > python standard library , the moment you import the module it executes a > method that prints this text. The joke became something very serious, it is > something that many python library authors take as a guide for designing > their libraries. This piece of joke has become so serious that currently > python libraries uses this set of principles and libraries that don't are > labeled by python coders as "unpythonic" which is considered a bad thing. > > For me this indicates that a community has chosen a path and most importantly > a path they have chosen to walk together as one unit. I don't think there is > anything stronger than that. > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com> > wrote: > onierstrasz wrote > > 117 emails since I checked a few hours ago? > > 110 of those were mine, sorry :-P > Signing off for today... > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-renamed-to-MuchTalk-tp4757347p4757349.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >