yeap definitely sounds a like a good idea to me :)
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: > We have that list too: > > Page 3 of > http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf > > Or this version: > > > http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2012-May/004059.html > > Now that I see this list again, I feel that it should be part of the image. > > On 30 Apr 2014, at 23:33, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Personally I am very interested to see how developers see Pharo, because > the way they see it is also the future of Pharo the directions it is going. > So while some may find these type of discussion derailing its very > important for the direction of Pharo. > > > > Even though its very important to add code to Pharo and enhance and bug > fix, its also very important to have a clear vision that the community > agrees on. > > > > The discussion also has raised some important issues of how Pharo is > promoted, obviously Promotion of Pharo is a rather huge deal for Pharo > future. I see these Emails as the start of a very long process in the > future of Pharo where the community tries to feel in the dark its path and > the values it represents. Its also important to get the message (Pharo is > all about messages afterall) loud and clear to newcomers or people > considering giving Pharo a try. > > > > Sean I am definitely interested in the discussion and your opinion, I > have very little to contribute to it, but its great to hear the opinion of > people that have very large experience of Smalltalk. > > > > Some say "opinions are like assholes everyone has one" (no intention to > be rude) but my belief is opinions however wrong they may be, do matter > because they reveal personal needs , desires and dreams. Pharo like every > other product out there is made to please people and accommodate for these > things. > > > > Also these discussions are far from exclusive to Pharo. I am coming from > Python there there is the Zen of Pharo. > > > > " > > • Beautiful is better than ugly. > > • Explicit is better than implicit. > > • Simple is better than complex. > > • Complex is better than complicated. > > • Flat is better than nested. > > • Sparse is better than dense. > > • Readability counts. > > • Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. > > • Although practicality beats purity. > > • Errors should never pass silently. > > • Unless explicitly silenced. > > • In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess. > > • There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to > do it. > > • Although that way may not be obvious at first unless > you're Dutch. > > • Now is better than never. > > • Although never is often better than right now. > > • If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. > > • If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea. > > • NameSpaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! > > > > • " > > This started as a joke from a single guy. Then it was included as a > module in python standard library , the moment you import the module it > executes a method that prints this text. The joke became something very > serious, it is something that many python library authors take as a guide > for designing their libraries. This piece of joke has become so serious > that currently python libraries uses this set of principles and libraries > that don't are labeled by python coders as "unpythonic" which is considered > a bad thing. > > > > For me this indicates that a community has chosen a path and most > importantly a path they have chosen to walk together as one unit. I don't > think there is anything stronger than that. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Sean P. DeNigris < > s...@clipperadams.com> wrote: > > onierstrasz wrote > > > 117 emails since I checked a few hours ago? > > > > 110 of those were mine, sorry :-P > > Signing off for today... > > > > > > > > ----- > > Cheers, > > Sean > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-renamed-to-MuchTalk-tp4757347p4757349.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > >
