> On 05 Oct 2014, at 09:55, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com > <mailto:esteba...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> On 05 Oct 2014, at 08:43, stepharo <steph...@free.fr >> <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> wrote: >> >> >> On 4/10/14 22:43, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> Hi Hernán, >>> >>> Thanks for the feedback. Just a question: Was there anything you do like? :) >>> >>> The rest of the reply is inline. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hernán Morales Durand >>> <hernan.mora...@gmail.com <mailto:hernan.mora...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Sorry if following issues were reported. I have seen so many mails about GT >>> that I wanted to try it. These are my first notes and personal tastes, >>> don't take them as negative just want to provide some feedback: >>> >>> - First weird thing: The Workspace doesn't open a Workspace anymore, it >>> opens a Playground window. >>> >>> That is because it is still a work in progress. >>> >>> - When I select code, right click gives no "Copy, Cut, Delete" commands. >>> >>> This was reported. The menu is missing on purpose. I still have a hard time >>> understanding why a developer needs those menu entries, but we will add >>> them back. Btw, the shortcuts do work. >> >> Doru can you add sender and implementors >> because I saw that newbies are really lost when the cannot know what they >> can do. > > and “browse”. > In fact… I want almost all the “extended search” back… please, please, please. > > It's back. But, this time as a real submenu, not like the hack we had before > in the Workspace (a menu was spawning another menu). Funny enough, nobody > complained about that one. It's good to shake the tree :). > >>> - Selecting an instance variable from the "State" tab, completely shift the >>> code view and scrolls to a new Inspector. Is not that I would love to >>> scroll back everytime to get a view on my code. >>> >>> The usage depends on the scenario in which you are. In most cases, when you >>> do want to drill through many objects, you are likely to only use the >>> playground as an entry point. When you build a more elaborate piece of code >>> in the playground, you typically do not need to drill too much. In any >>> case, if you want to scroll back, there are also keybindings that allow you >>> to navigate: Cmd+Alt+Left/Right. >>> >>> - I cannot find how to close new Inspector tabs. >>> >>> This is a feature that is already planned. >>> >>> - "Print it" seems broken. It seems to print evaluation result but suddenly >>> dissapears. >>> >>> What do you mean? Can you elaborate on that? Print it should behave like >>> here: >>> >>> - Debugger buttons Into, Through, etc. >>> -- They are too small and close themselves for the importance they have. >>> -- They have no caption, so you have to mouse over to know what they do >>> (until you get used to) >>> -- They are like "too distant" from the code view. >>> >>> The debugger is not in the Pharo image, so I think you are trying the Moose >>> image. Is that so? >>> In any case, the positioning of the icons will be the same everywhere in GT >>> (to the right of the scope they relate to). We are still fiddling with the >>> right balance in the debugger. >> putting a caption would be a great point. >> why forcing people to learn icons. Icons should be there to help not to >> force learning. > > I’m planning to make Doru hate me by replacing all those icons by “themable” > icons and of course, using eclipse icons for all that actions ;) > > All the visual aspects from GT and Glamour should get themeable (not all of > them are at this point). I will certainly not complain if you help there :). > > As for the icons, I think Pharo deserves a Pharo look, not an Eclipse one. > So, you can certainly use the Eclipse icons, but I will try to propose a > complete set of Pharo icons.
of course, is better if we have our own. problem is that a complete set is hard to do, with the appropriate quality, etc. If you do it, I will be super happy (with Nico we started a set of icons both for Pharo and Amber… and my contribution there was just to ask Nico “is there something new today”, because I frankly suck at design :P) Esteban > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > Esteban > > >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"
