I'd like to summarize some things

 + 1 to all that sven said.

Taking a look at users of old text converters, there are only 77 of them:

(TextConverter withAllSubclasses gather: [ :each |
SystemNavigation new allReferencesTo: each binding ]) size
 " => 77"

That is maybe a good starting point. And it will step by step remove the
leading char magic.

The only point where I see a problem is in the feature "convert magically
cr's to some line ending convention" that is managed by a mixture between
the text converter and the file stream. I would not like to push this
"feature" to the zinc encoders. Actually I don't believe it belongs to the
file reading neither.

Guille

El jue., 30 de abr. de 2015 a la(s) 11:46 a. m., Norbert Hartl <
norb...@hartl.name> escribió:

> If yours is better there shouldn't be much of a reason to keep the bad
> one, right? I'd just suggest that pharo does not depend on zinc classes but
> the encoder moves to pharo with a different name.
>
> Norbert
>
> > Am 30.04.2015 um 11:42 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>:
> >
> >
> >> On 30 Apr 2015, at 11:13, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I'm struggling with the TextConverter's API in Pharo :).
> >>
> >> I wanted to test the converters in Pharo, and I found the method
> #convertFromSystemString: that should (from its name) convert a Pharo
> String into an encoded version of it.
> >>
> >> (UTF8TextConverter default convertFromSystemString: 'á').
> >>
> >> Funny thing, it does not do that. It does the opposite: it tries to
> convert an encoded string to a pharo string. And so it fails. Of course,
> its symmetrical version does what I want and behaves as the ZnUTF8Encoder :)
> >>
> >> (UTF8TextConverter default convertToSystemString: 'á') asByteArray
> >> "#[195 161]"
> >>
> >> ZnUTF8Encoder new encodeString: 'á' "#[195 161]"
> >>
> >> Question:
> >> - does the convertTo/From methods makes sense to you or It's just me
> that sees them inverted?
> >> - does it make sense to have the two versions of converters? Zn and the
> TextConverters do the same in my opinion (or maybe I'm confused :) )
> >>
> >> Guille
> >
> > I am biased, but the Zn converters are better. Why ? Because they work
> between String <-> Bytes as a text encoder/decoder should. They also have a
> number of extra features (counting the number of encoded bytes, being able
> to move backwards on input, being able to be very strict), are faster and
> have a clearer implementation. Furthermore, they are more correct and
> implement more encodings.
> >
> > There is also good documentation
> http://stfx.eu/EnterprisePharo/Zinc-Encoding-Meta/
> >
> > ZnCharacter[Read|Write]Stream are also very instructive, compare them to
> MultiByteStream.
> >
> > Should we throw the other one out ? Probably. But it is the same
> problems as with Xtreams: the API is different and adding a compatibility
> layer would defeat the purpose. So I don't know.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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