Sven I'm not against spotter. This is why I will try to do a video
assuming that all the bugs are fixed.
Now if I have 30 min to do a videos I do not have 5 days to understand
how to use and try spotter
because when I have few moments to program I need something fully working.
Stef
Le 20/2/16 11:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
On 20 Feb 2016, at 11:06, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote:
Tx sven
I will see if I use this scenario for a video to explain my friend Spotter.
If you have scenario that I can blindly follow I'm eager to try to produce a
video.
Yes, that would be good.
But even better would be if one starts to use it a bit in day to day routine,
only then do you really feel it, and then we can iterate and try to improve (I
must say that I learned new stuff while writing this mail ;-)
There should be something like on OS X > System Preferences > Trackpad where
you have animations and videos explaining thing in the same UI (not jumping to
something else).
At least, there should be a cookbook explaining really well, high level, for
beginners, how to use Spotter (but things have to be stable).
Hi,
This is in the latest #50591, BTW.
Starting with the 3rd one, searching for classes, that has been working well
since day one and has benefited from general improvements.
'zncl' gives me ZnClient immediately.
Yes, you have to learn how to dive into a result to expand it, but that is not
often needed in this case.
'readstream', then first arrow (or cmd-shit-right), then 'co' gives me
ZnCodePointReadStream and ZnEncodeReadStream.
In both cases, just typing enter browses the class, which is what I want.
Both implementers and senders do work well today, you just have to figure out
how (learnability is an issue, but not everything can be obvious in this world).
'get: #i' but also, 'get:' + cmd-m gives you all implementors of #get: and
spotter automatically expands from a limited set of 5 matches to 100
How do I get to see all of them and not just the 100 first.
When I click on the arrow I get the same list 100/127 but not all
Yes, that is true, 100 is probably some arbitrary limit
In the past there was just one limit for all categories, maybe it is different
now, it could be much large or infinite in some cases
The idea is to keep refining the search (like I described below)
Enable preview (click outer arrow, or cmd-p) and you see the implementors right
there
Now, dive in (first arrow or cmd-shit-right), and type 'zn' and I can see
ZnClient>>#get:
Type enter to open the method in a browser
Similar approach for senders, using #s and cmd-n
'join: #s'but also, 'join:' + cmd-n gives you all senders of #join: and spotter
automatically expands
Enable preview (click outer arrow, or cmd-p) and you see the implementors right
there
Now, dive in (first arrow or cmd-shit-right), and type 'zn' and I can see
ZnDefaultServerDelegate>>#welcomePageCss
Type enter to open the method in a browser
Class references, I don't know how to do that, but I can't see why it would not
fit and it would be a good addition.
Spotter adds to the other ways of doing these 4 actions, the old one still
work, as does command-click (one of my favourites).
Sven
PS: I don't wan to narrow down the discussion to just these 4 cases, Spotter
and GT are about way more than just this, you can search for many, many things
(for example, type 'json' and you can install 3 packages from the catalog), and
you can extend these tools yourself. I also know that things must improve
further.
