Le 7/6/16 à 16:33, Guille Polito a écrit :
For coherence, the vast majority of shortcuts should follow the standard in all applications. Most shortcuts use cmd in mac, and ctrl in unix/win.

Then there are exceptions of course. I'd like exceptions to be that, exceptions, and well documented. I'm not against using #alt for particular cases (for example, it is often used in windows/linux for menu navigation).

Also, I'd like shortcuts that are meant to be used with #alt to use #alt and not #command. Because #command means the windows key in windows.

That said, If the problem are shortcut conflicts, I think it would be nice at some moment to make a step back, look at the big picture and design shortcuts for the entire system instead of patching place over place :).
Yes and we should experiment with a hierarchy of command.

and I would love to have
cmd k
cmd e end of line and others from emacs (of course in my own shortcut bindings preferences :)

Guille
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2016-06-07 16:12 GMT+02:00 Andrei Chis <chisvasileand...@gmail.com <mailto:chisvasileand...@gmail.com>>:

    We can, but I remember there were some discussions and it was
    decided to use meta everywhere.



but using meta everywhere does not help if there are conflicts with other shortcuts.


    Cheers,
    Andrei

    On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Nicolai Hess
    <nicolaih...@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaih...@gmail.com>> wrote:



        2016-06-07 15:08 GMT+02:00 Andrei Chis
<chisvasileand...@gmail.com <mailto:chisvasileand...@gmail.com>>:

            During Pharo 5 most shortcuts from tools were changed to
            use "meta" instead of cmd.

            Cheers,
            Andrei


        Can we change this for spotter ? cmd instead of meta

        ctrl left/right is often used for text components to move to
        next/previous word.


            On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Nicolai Hess
<nicolaih...@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaih...@gmail.com>> wrote:



                2016-06-07 13:57 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess
                <nicolaih...@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaih...@gmail.com>>:


                    Am 07.06.2016 1:56 nachm. schrieb "Henrik
                    Nergaard" <henrik.nerga...@uia.no
                    <mailto:henrik.nerga...@uia.no>>:
                    >
                    > IIRC the shortcut is not changed, it still is
                    meta+right(+shift). Only the tooltip was changed
                    to display the system specific key instead of
                    “cmd” so for Windows/Linux this would be “ctrl”.

                    No, it changed

                In #40624, for example, it was cmd (alt-key on windows
                ) right/shift right

                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Best regards,
                    >
                    > Henrik
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > From: Pharo-dev
                    [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org
<mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org>] On
                    Behalf Of Nicolai Hess
                    > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:56 PM
                    > To: Pharo Development List
                    <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
                    <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>>
                    > Subject: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Why did the shortcut for dive-in
                    element/category changed from
                    >
                    > cmd+right
                    >
                    > cmd+shift+right
                    >
                    > to
                    >
                    > ctrl+right
                    > ctrl+shift+right
                    >
                    > I know there were some discussions about this
                    and that the behavior changed some
                    >
> time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this.
                    >
                    > thanks
                    >
                    > nicolai
                    >
                    >











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