I think that the concept of a LTS will become useful at one point.
Like, every 3 versions or so.



On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Dale Henrichs <
dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

> Norbert,
>
> I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text model for Sparta
> was (potentially) inferior.
>
> The other day you were expressing sadness about having to use the newer
> version of Metacello (which is *only* 3 years old), so I assumed that you
> were just being generally cranky about change:).
>
> Dale
>
> On 10/21/16 6:50 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Dale,
>
> I was not arguing against evolution. I was refering to the fact that work
> of others is mostly ignored just to come up with a potential weaker
> solution.
>
> Norbert
>
> Am 21.10.2016 um 15:34 schrieb Dale Henrichs <
> dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com>:
>
> Norbert,
>
> It is also called evolution ... with each step forward new possibilities
> are revealed and often the old (current) way of doing things needs to
> change to better leverage these new possibilities ... and evolution is
> required[4].
>
> Change is also painful and keeping up with an ever-changing system takes a
> lot of individual effort.
>
> If you don't want to deal with change, then pick a Pharo version and stick
> with it ... Pharo3.0 is still functional and I for one make sure that all
> new versions of Metacello work on older versions of Squeak, Pharo and
> GemStone[1] --- but you don't have to use the newer version of Metacello if
> you don't want to:).
>
> I use Pharo3.0 on a daily basis for tODE -- I decided that I wanted to
> spend my time evolving and changing tODE itself rather than spend a portion
> of every year porting to a newer version of Pharo. Fortunately I don't NEED
> the fancy new widgets in Pharo3.0 to make progress with tODE.
>
> Metacello is not the only project to ensure that it continues to function
> on older versions of Pharo. Seaside[2], Voyage[3] and I'm sure others make
> an effort to continue to function on older versions of Pharo --- the
> technology exists for maintaining compatibility with older versions of
> Pharo for those projects that aren't making the effort now.
> If you choose to leverage the benefits of the newer versions of Pharo,
> then you must accept the cost, but you can pace yourself if the rate of
> change becomes too much.
>
> Dale
>
> [1] https://travis-ci.org/dalehenrich/metacello-work/builds/168940183
>
> [2] https://travis-ci.org/SeasideSt/Seaside/builds/160382244
>
> [3] https://travis-ci.org/pharo-nosql/voyage/builds/167012791
>
> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_evolution
>
> On 10/21/16 12:10 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
>
>
> Am 21.10.2016 um 04:00 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com>:
>
> Denis Kudriashov wrote
>
> I look at code and it seems you implemented another one new text model?
>
> Why
>
> you not use TxText?
>
>
> Argh. I know it's bad form to complain about gifts, but at the rate we
> reinvent the wheel, I often fear that I will be retired from programming
> before we have a sane text model :/
>
> It has a name and we should fight it:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
>
> Norbert
>
>
> -----
> Cheers,
> Sean
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