How can we start PharmIDE server so that it binds to localhost only on the
server?

Phil

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:

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> Am 30.01.2017 um 11:49 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>:
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> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:43, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
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> Am 30.01.2017 um 11:36 schrieb Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com>:
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> Hi Sean.
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> 2017-01-28 19:06 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com>:
> Have you considered security at all yet? Leaving a port open which allows
> arbitrary code to be executed reomotely seems very dangerous...
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> Norbert already answer you. I just put little summary.
> Currently there is two important issues which must be handled manually:
> - security. You can manage it by VPN or SSH
> - distributed garbage collection. You need perform "remotePharo
> disconnect" (or "PrmRemotePharo disconnectAll") at the end of your working
> session. It cleans server and client from distributed objects.
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> Last issue is at high priority in my todo. When I implement it unused
> distributed objects will be collected automatically like local ones.
> Security option can be added too. Seamless design allows to it. Probably
> It can be simple switch to SecureSocketStream instead of SocketStream.
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> My advize for security is two-fold. The first reason not to apply security
> features to seamless is that it complicates the code base with a feature
> that is done better elsewhere. The second reason is that one big reason why
> this can be unusable is latency. A high latency makes it very hard to use
> the toolkit. So removing everything adding latency should be avoided.
> Security is from the image perspective one of those things.
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> Explicit/manual SSH port forwarding is easy & safe. Doing it deliberately
> makes you more aware of what you are doing, which is very necessary in this
> case because of the huge danger involved (giving away full image control).
> But it will add its own latency (just like TLS would).
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> Right. To make it a bit more concrete. If we use the example of Denis on
> port 40423 then a simple
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> $ ssh -L 40423:localhost:40423 pharmide-server.anydomain.com
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> will open a forwarding tunnel so you can connect with the PharmIDE client
> using
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> PrmRemoteIDE connectTo: (TCPAddress ip: #[127 0 0 1] port: 40423)
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> and you'll end up connecting to your remote image.
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> Unfortunately I couldn't test it because I installed the PharmIDE on my
> linux machine and it does not work. When starting the image a listening
> port is opened but 5 seconds later the port closes automatically. Has
> anyone tested it on a linux machine?
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> Norbert
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> thanks again for doing that.
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> Norbert
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> Important thing here that I am really satisfied with Seamless design which
> I made. It was driven by tests which means that it only addresses existing
> features but allow stable evolution to new functionality. And I thing it is
> most important property of any system: provide stable way how to evolve.
> System can be broken and very buggy at some point but if design and tests
> are stable then system will move. By stable I mean "do not require big
> changes for any new bug or feature", "always iterative process".
> Just want to share these thoughts with you :).
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