Although it hurts to admit, I think Stef is downright on his take... OTOH, I feel we lost the bandwagon long time ago when Apple already sent the message by stopping supporting Squeak. So, just to attempt to bring another idea to the debate, I suggest we reason this way: presently this platform is getting a lot of attention and we (lets define our Smalltalk + Scratch interest group here¹) saw some prospects for some uses of it which Apple could not conceive a way of its business model without forbidding it.
It is their platform their business model! Is like we are trying again to show how nerdy and rebel we are as were the folks that got the PS to run Linux. . . my 0.019999.... -- [1] In another post I can post my take about dynamic languages in general if interest remains on this subject) Em 22/04/2010 15:43, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr > escreveu: if we start to make the intersection between smalltalk and university and education then we will end up to nothing. zero ok one or two, now individually we can take the responsibility to say what we think about apple attitude and I will do it for myself. Stef On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:15 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: > > On 2010-04-22, at 6:22 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> I still naively believe that if all the programmers of the dynamic language >> put a logo with apple and a black skull on their >> web page. Apple will get a bad press. > > > Yes well I don't think that will achieve much. > > Personally I think that the people here involved in the education & > university domains need to write actual paper based letters on their > institution's letter head and mail them to the Apple education reps for their > countries stating their concern about Apple's legal agreements > that appear to lockout the iPad for extraordinary use in the computer science > curriculum. > > This involves passionately arguing for the ability to program, or teach in > something other than C, C++, Obj-C or Javascript, I"m sure others are > more capable than me in composing that, as a software engineer my words > aren't worth much, but I think computer science departments should > be voicing their concern on the direction where things appear to be going. > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > esug-l...@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
