Hi Laurent, I tried to program while having AutoTest running. More importantly than the interface, I experienced some problem with long executing tests. Basically, these tests should not be executed while I am programming. Or at least in a thread of a lesser priority. Am I the only one to experience this?
Cheers, Alexandre On 11 Jun 2010, at 09:02, laurent laffont wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexan...@bergel.eu> wrote: > Hi Laurent, > > I like Autotest. It is true that I always execute the test after modifying it. > There are three horizontal panes. Why so? Is it just to open a debugger when > necessary? > > I want to be able to open a debugger from autotest. I agree the GUI is crap > now. > > > We could imagine one standalone button instead with a green color to say the > test I just edited is green, and yellow or red when it fails. In that case, > clicking on the button open a debugger. > > I just feel the window of autotest takes a lot of space in the screen, > without having a real benefit. > > Yes it's true. I'm still thinking on a good GUI. But I'm learning how to make > GUI now :) > > If you look at Autotest package, AutotestView is just the GUI, so we can > implement several GUI and see the best solution. I need to take the time to > do it, repository is read / write so feel free to commit :) > > What I want to have is a dashboard docked on one side of the screen which > acts like you're driving a car. It's always visible, you have to be able to > look quickly at it as when you check the speed of your car, adjust your > drive, .... > > Also another problem with the current version if that if a test fails, change > it and fails again, you don't see it has run (nothing moves in the GUI). > > Finally, another problem is that you see that a test has failed, but you > don't know why (SUnit TestRunner has the same problem). I want to display the > exception message too. > > Thanks a lot for feedback. > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 3 Jun 2010, at 17:11, laurent laffont wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've written a proof-of-concept for Autotest. Draft/crappy code and no > > tests (exploration mode :) but it loads on PharoCore-1.1-11383-beta image. > > > > Load it: > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'Autotest'; > > package: 'Autotest'; > > load > > > > Open it: > > AutotestView open > > (there's en entry in WorldMenu > Tools) > > > > And change a tested method to see the results. > > > > There's a bug I need to find, maybe someone knows: > > - Change Bag>>occurrencesOf: > > - Autotest gives: > > > > 284 run, 281 passes, 0 expected failures, 1 failures, 2 errors, 0 > > unexpected passes > > Failures: > > CollectionRootTest>>#test0FixtureIterateTest > > > > Errors: > > CollectionRootTest>>#testBasicCollect > > CollectionRootTest>>#testDoWithout > > > > but in SUnit CollectionRootTest gives > > 0 run, 0 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 unexpected > > passes ?? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Laurent Laffont > > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexan...@bergel.eu> > > wrote: > > The idea is excellent. > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 3 Jun 2010, at 10:22, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexan...@bergel.eu> > > > wrote: > > > > You may have a lot of noise. > > > > > > > > I guess that Ruby uses files as a unit of development/deployment. The > > > > closest Smalltalk/Pharo has is the class and the package. > > > > > > > > I would suggest that TestCase which would use this feature use some > > > > pragma/method to identify/declare which classes/packages this test > > > > depends upon. Then the "autotest" framework would register such tests > > > > and listen for changes in the given classes/packages, launching > > > > required tests whenever a change happen. > > > > > > > > Additionally, one could declare such a pragma on a single test method, > > > > when this test should be run for a specific class. > > > > > > > > Of course, you also to take care of long running tests, which you > > > > probably want to exclude from auto-testing. > > > > > > I see autotest in Pharo in a slighly different way: When I press save in > > > the Monticello browser, I have a popup menu which asks me whether (i) I > > > want to run all the tests or (ii) only the tests that cover that I > > > changed from the last version. > > > > > > Does this make sense? > > > > > > Please no popup :) What I like in ruby autotest is that I can quickly > > > look at test results if I want (or not) without stop writing. Often you > > > want to see your tests failing, as you type / save code. I don't have to > > > stop writing, click a button, wait test results, go again.... testing is > > > done in background and I just see notifications whether it's OK or not. > > > > > > So test log in a Transcript is OK for me. > > > > > > > > > For autotest unit of work is file: it runs the test file which has the > > > same name as the code file, but you can customize this behavior. For > > > autotest-rails: > > > "A simplified version of Autotest heuristics in this mode would be: > > > When changing a test file, only this file is run (e.g. > > > test/unit/foo_test.rb →test/unit/foo_test.rb). > > > When changing a model file, only associated unit test file is run > > > (e.g.app/models/foo.rb → test/unit/foo_test.rb). > > > When changing a controller file, associated functional test file is run > > > (e.g.app/controllers/foo_controller.rb > > > →test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb). > > > When changing a fixture file, associated unit test and functional test > > > are run (e.g.app/fixtures/foos.yml → test/unit/foo_test.rb > > > +test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb). > > > When changing a helper file, associated functional test file is run > > > (e.g.app/helpers/foo_helper.rb →test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb). > > > When changing application_helper.rb file all functional test files are > > > run (e.g.application_helper.rb → test/functional/*_test.rb). > > > When changing a file under the config directory, all tests are run." > > > > > > Laurent > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alexandre > > > -- > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
