Hi Alexandre,

I've reorganized Autotest to write tests. The tests now run in a thread with
lower priority. Thanks for feedback.

Cheers,

Laurent Laffont

http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/
http://magaloma.blogspot.com/


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Laurent,
>
> I tried to program while having AutoTest running.
> More importantly than the interface, I experienced some problem with long
> executing tests. Basically, these tests should not be executed while I am
> programming. Or at least in a thread of a lesser priority. Am I the only one
> to experience this?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 11 Jun 2010, at 09:02, laurent laffont wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Laurent,
> >
> > I like Autotest. It is true that I always execute the test after
> modifying it.
> > There are three horizontal panes. Why so? Is it just to open a debugger
> when necessary?
> >
> > I want to be able to open a debugger from autotest. I agree the GUI is
> crap now.
> >
> >
> > We could imagine one standalone button instead with a green color to say
> the test I just edited is green, and yellow or red when it fails. In that
> case, clicking on the button open a debugger.
> >
> > I just feel the window of autotest takes a lot of space in the screen,
> without having a real benefit.
> >
> > Yes it's true. I'm still thinking on a good GUI. But I'm learning how to
> make GUI now :)
> >
> > If you look at Autotest package, AutotestView is just the GUI, so we can
> implement several GUI and see the best solution. I need to take the time to
> do it, repository is read / write so feel free to commit :)
> >
> > What I want to have is a dashboard docked on one side of the screen which
> acts like  you're driving a car. It's always visible, you have to be able to
> look quickly at it as when you check the speed of your car, adjust your
> drive, ....
> >
> > Also another problem with the current version if that if a test fails,
> change it and fails again, you don't see it has run (nothing moves in the
> GUI).
> >
> > Finally, another problem is that you see that a test has failed, but you
> don't know why (SUnit TestRunner has the same problem). I want to display
> the exception message too.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for feedback.
> >
> > Laurent Laffont
> >
> > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/
> > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alexandre
> >
> >
> > On 3 Jun 2010, at 17:11, laurent laffont wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've written a proof-of-concept for Autotest. Draft/crappy code and no
> tests (exploration mode :) but it loads on PharoCore-1.1-11383-beta image.
> > >
> > > Load it:
> > > Gofer new
> > >       squeaksource: 'Autotest';
> > >       package: 'Autotest';
> > >       load
> > >
> > > Open it:
> > > AutotestView open
> > > (there's  en entry in WorldMenu > Tools)
> > >
> > > And change a tested method to see the results.
> > >
> > > There's a bug I need to find, maybe someone knows:
> > > - Change Bag>>occurrencesOf:
> > > - Autotest gives:
> > >
> > > 284 run, 281 passes, 0 expected failures, 1 failures, 2 errors, 0
> unexpected passes
> > > Failures:
> > > CollectionRootTest>>#test0FixtureIterateTest
> > >
> > > Errors:
> > > CollectionRootTest>>#testBasicCollect
> > > CollectionRootTest>>#testDoWithout
> > >
> > > but in SUnit CollectionRootTest gives
> > > 0 run, 0 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0
> unexpected passes ??
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Laurent Laffont
> > >
> > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/
> > > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > The idea is excellent.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Alexandre
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3 Jun 2010, at 10:22, laurent laffont wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > You may have a lot of noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess that Ruby uses files as a unit of development/deployment.
> The closest Smalltalk/Pharo has is the class and the package.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would suggest that TestCase which would use this feature use some
> pragma/method to identify/declare which classes/packages this test depends
> upon. Then the "autotest" framework would register such tests and listen for
> changes in the given classes/packages, launching required tests whenever a
> change happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally, one could declare such a pragma on a single test
> method, when this test should be run for a specific class.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, you also to take care of long running tests, which you
> probably want to exclude from auto-testing.
> > > >
> > > > I see autotest in Pharo in a slighly different way: When I press save
> in the Monticello browser, I have a popup menu which asks me whether (i) I
> want to run all the tests or (ii) only the tests that cover that I changed
> from the last version.
> > > >
> > > > Does this make sense?
> > > >
> > > > Please no popup :) What I like in ruby autotest is that I can quickly
> look at test results if I want (or not) without stop writing. Often you want
> to see your tests failing, as you type / save code. I don't have to stop
> writing, click a button, wait test results, go again.... testing is done in
> background and I just see notifications whether it's OK or not.
> > > >
> > > > So test log in a Transcript is OK for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For autotest unit of work is file: it runs the test file which has
> the same name as the code file, but you can customize this behavior. For
> autotest-rails:
> > > > "A simplified version of Autotest heuristics in this mode would be:
> > > > When changing a test file, only this file is run (e.g.
> test/unit/foo_test.rb →test/unit/foo_test.rb).
> > > > When changing a model file, only associated unit test file is run
> (e.g.app/models/foo.rb → test/unit/foo_test.rb).
> > > > When changing a controller file, associated functional test file is
> run (e.g.app/controllers/foo_controller.rb
> →test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb).
> > > > When changing a fixture file, associated unit test and functional
> test are run (e.g.app/fixtures/foos.yml → test/unit/foo_test.rb
> +test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb).
> > > > When changing a helper file, associated functional test file is run
> (e.g.app/helpers/foo_helper.rb →test/functional/foo_controller_test.rb).
> > > > When changing application_helper.rb file all functional test files
> are run (e.g.application_helper.rb → test/functional/*_test.rb).
> > > > When changing a file under the config directory, all tests are run."
> > > >
> > > > Laurent
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Alexandre
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