On 8 April 2011 11:02, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 10:41, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>>> is it for pharo? >>> >>> I do not know because I do not understand what the process is anymore. I >>> tried to get a process going in which the design of UI goes through the >>> same rigor and integration like the object-oriented design, but it did not >>> work yet :(. >> >> You lost me there. > > Perhaps I did not understand your question. > >> You are talking about Glamour. > > No. Glamour is but an effort to stream knowledge through one technology. But, > I am talking about the ui in general. I am talking about the fact that in the > distribution is just fine to add another color, another kind of selection, > another way of interactive, and nobody really cares. I know that the > intention is not to have that at the end, but in the end we do have that, so > the process is not working :). In the UI world we have what we hate in the > programming world. > >>> We need a project. I proposed to do this in the context of the The >>> Glamorous Toolkit project and to integrate all these concerns, including >>> the UI look and feel. >> >> Yes I thought that this is what you were doing. > > I am doing that, but that is about it. The little pieces are not worked on > because of this goal. They are worked on because someone has some interest in > some corner. And they almost never get properly integrated. So, at the moment > this project is failing from my point of view. >
No. Its not failing. It just takes time. I remember that you came with initiative that you want to coordinate efforts about improving state of are about UI. And trust me, your been heard. > But, I will stop raising this issue :). > >>> I would offer to lead this. Right now, everyone is still pretty much >>> working on UI by looking at smaller pieces in his own corner. That is not >>> bad, but it is not enough. >> >> I'm talking just about the UITheme. So I was planning to rename the >> GLMglamour looks which is in pharo and do the refactoring but what I could >> do is to start from yours so that the one we use gets all your improvements. >> And you could load yours on the side. > > Ok. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> Stef >>>>> >>> Like small graphical issues related to the fact that GLMUITheme does no >>> longer inherit all the helpers and effects from Watery2. >>> >>> At the moment, I basically copied some of these from Watery2 (like the >>> management of the close/minimize/maximize) buttons. >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
