Am 22.07.2011 um 15:30 schrieb Alain Plantec:

> Le 22/07/2011 10:02, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
>> 
>> Am 21.07.2011 um 20:29 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
>>> <stephane.duca...@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.duca...@inria.fr>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    it depends on your scenario and when users do not use or use the
>>>    tool differently you get different feedback.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Or even better: if noboy says anything in the last 6 months while
>>> Pharo 1.3 was being developed/tested then we cannot do magic.
>>> I am tired of saying that anything that YOU don't test, can be broken.
>> 
>> Seems I learned something today. I never understood TDD as "I develop,
>> YOU test" type of development. Thanks for clarifying.
> :)
> I would say something like "the pharo community develop AND test"
> I don't know who has implemented this Time Profiler.
> Now we can USE it for real, report and someone else can fix it and improve it.
> This is how it works no ?
> How can we ask newbies to contribute if this is not the case ?
> How can we make the pharo community grow ?
> 
I don't know. But I think Hillaire had a point in here. There is a change rate 
a community can cover. As we like to change code it is ok that things break. If 
complaints about broken things raise than you should see that you overstretched 
your capability and need to think again. The type of replies I replied to just 
prove that someone is tired listening. And at least I'm pretty sure that 
listening is essential. 

Norbert
 
>> 
>> Norbert
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Stef
>>> 
>>>    On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>> 
>>>    > In Pharo 1.3, the new Time Profile is unusable (the one you get from
>>>    > profiling the UI):
>>>    >
>>>    > - In the resulting window clicking in a line cause an error
>>>    > - WORST: there is no way (at least obvious one) to copy and past the
>>>    > resulting profile in an external file.
>>>    >
>>>    > When replacing the tools, beware to replace with working ones
>>>    otherwise
>>>    > developers may run away.
>>>    >
>>>    > I am updating my image to see if it is a temporary problem.
>>>    >
>>>    > Hilaire
>>>    >
>>>    > --
>>>    > Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
>>>    >
>>>    >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Mariano
>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/>
>>> 
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