On 16 January 2012 09:59, Lawson English <lengli...@cox.net> wrote: > On 1/15/12 6:44 PM, Jimmie Houchin wrote: >> >> On 1/15/2012 6:55 AM, Gerry Weaver wrote: >>> >>> Hi Andreas, >>> >>>> I am not comfortable with the idea to write parts of an application in >>>> different languages. >>>> Typically the disadvantages overweigh the advantages to do so as you >>>> would have different languages and systems to master and update. >>>> Interoperability with other systems and languages should be easy and >>>> Squeak/Pharo are still lacking in this area. This is well known and >>>> hopefully there will be some improvements in the future. >>> >>> >>> I guess I would have to disagree with you here. Most of the editors and >>> IDEs of other languages are not maintained by the language proper. There >>> are many editors and IDEs that support many languages in addition to the >>> one they are written in. I think the benefits of using a full featured >>> GUI toolkit to create an IDE would be significant. >> >> >> And I have to disagree with you here. You lack the imagination and >> knowledge to understand the significant advantage of having a single >> language, environment and toolset that Smalltalk provides. > > > I agree that there is an advantage to having a unified IDE/environment/etc, > but Smalltalk IS stuck in the past in that it doesn't take advantage of > multiple cores. I'm not talking about multi-threading in the usual sense, > but things like the ability to debug one image from another so that the > errors that pop up in the application under development don't affect the > environment being used TO development that application. This issue pops up > most obviously when trying to debug Cobalt/Croquet in a multi-user > configuration, but arises all the time, especially when external libraries > (e.g. OpenGL) are being used and errors occur that the current toolset isn't > designed to accommodate. > > We need to develop better ways of doing things, both for individual and > collaborative environments. IOW, we need spoon and teatime and various other > solutions to mature and work together.
If only we knew some folks working on the problem... http://marcusdenker.de/publications/Casa09aObjectSpaces.pdf :) Of course, there's a bit of elbow grease required to turn a research topic into a production-ready system. frank
