Göran, Thanks for what you do, and for noticing what I (at least try) to contribute. Some other "tangible" items in my queue *will* be worth the wait[*]. I sincerely hope you are correct about a misunderstanding being at the base of thread.
Hopefully, we can all dust ourselves off [**] and make FFI robust everywhere. Best regards, Bill [*] I know I've said this for essentially Pharo's entire life cycle, but it's true... Callbacks, my kingdom for callbacks. [**] Some US slang for Stef's benefit :) ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Göran Krampe [go...@krampe.se] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:05 AM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found Hi guys! On 01/09/2012 09:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > On 09 Jan 2012, at 20:06, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> I think you have the situation very much in reverse. You are flying off the >> handle, not me. >> >> Cog deserves better than to ignore feedback from motivated users. Motivated >> users deserve better than to be insulted for their efforts to improve it. > > Pharo, Squeak, Cog, Seaside, and most other Smalltalk software on > SqueakSource is open source, written almost exclusively by people in their > free time. And although most of them will try to help the users of their > software the best they can, they cannot and should not do just anything > unless they want to. The relation between open source authors and their users > should be mutually productive. Using software and giving feedback if one > thing, but it is not enough. It can't be one way all the time. > > I might be wrong, but I fail to find > > - any issues you put in the issue tracker(s) > - any issues you solved > - any open source software you published on SqueakSource or anywhere else > - any blog post or web pages with documentation, tutorials, .. that you wrote > > I hope you get the point: there are many more ways to contribute than what > you are doing now. > > Pharo and other projects need all the help they can get, give back to the > community, we are all using software written by others in the same spirit, it > is only fair to honor these contributions. > > My 2c, This thread is long dead but I just wanted to mention that Wilhelm Schwab is a long time Squeaker and has been active in the community long before Pharo was even born. ;) Now, it seems to me that the "heat" in this particular thread was based on a misunderstanding, I know Eliot and it didn't seem to me he was trying to insult. General observation: Try taking it easy on the "what the heck have you done for us?"-talk. I have made several such similar posts too over the years when I got frustrated, but it might backfire if you aren't shooting at the "right people". We take pride in being a friendly community (Smalltalk at large) and I presume Pharo does too :) regards, Göran
