Over the past three years, I have learnt that the one biggest skill all of us have to develop is to see and gain from the positive side of everything and everyone.
The quick poring through this chain, makes me feel there is lot we can gain from the most blunt critics, unjust as it might feel. The most important is to be able to make even a fiercest critic welcome to the community. At the core, the whole point that is being vociferously pushed for is the need to be "business" oriented, which I am sure Guido too appreciates is not a small step and that no two people necessarily agree on a perfectly aligned path to reach there. Like Steve led Apple to its heights, we should wish Guido to lead his endeavor to success, even if it has to be any other technology stack and keep contributing more concrete facts for Pharo to take the lead from. To agree to disagree, but push forward to get Pharo over to its ultimate goal is eventually in the hands of the Pharo Community and each has his own role to play ranging from the eternal optimist and the ones not so... Understanding the facts is also important beyond technical content of a programming platform for enterprise: * Enterprise activity will gravitate to cost centers.. be it manufacturing or IT * No Phd's will be employed to do programming task in any such center beyond probably a top 1-3% of the tech staff, but they do from their places contribute a good deal.. * Enterprise software usage is not dictated as much by performance and minutae but by perception at large, availability of skilled resource in large easy to hire numbers (Java in Stanford is great news for corporates..!) * Enterprise will throw hardware, lower cost dev to compensate for anything that makes it more flexible and manageable and eventually guarantees in some manner a longer term returns on investment * Enterprise managers want to bank on a face/ entity they can lay the blame on for issues, without being questioned why they chose X over Y. Also get resolution for critical issues within some timeframe.. even upto a year at times from MS, Sun , Oracle or IBM.. Following the herd, howsoever right or wrong it is helps in that direction Lots to say.. but the brief note is this is a huge endeavor and what is correct and right cannot be prescribed by one person in entirety. We all do the best and contribute directly into the framework viz: If Guido can get a version of Pharo fast and enterprise ready.. great all the better.. He can contribute his code/ works which without bias passes muster.. great. We all win. No cathedral has been built in a year.. but appreciate the fact that we are on a path well forked. Hands are always needed...! On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andreas Wacknitz <a.wackn...@gmx.de> wrote: > > Am 14.02.2012 um 20:01 schrieb Guido Stepken: > > > Get the development process developed! > > > Guido, you seem to have interest in Pharo, even if it doesn't fit your > needs today. > You also seem to have "the right" connections and money. What about > turning this into something positive > for you, your customers and the whole community? > Make a list of things you want to have. Make the things more concrete than > in your last posts. An wave with a bundle of money. > You will maybe raise the interest of some of the brilliant guys here and > can convince them to do what you want. From what you > wrote within this thread I would bet that you will be able to offer more > than $100,000 - a very convincing argument and maybe enough > to get what you want from Pharo! > > > Regards, > Andreas > > > >
