Thanks for the explanation :)

My question was more
Can I be a student for project Foo and a mentor for project Bar ?

:)

Ben

On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.miv...@eranova.si> wrote:

> Hi Benjamin
> 
> Dne 26. 03. 2013 16:04, piše Benjamin:
>> Of course I could be a mentor :)
>> 
>> But my question is can I be a mentor and a student ?
> 
> Unfortunatelly not :(
> 
>> And this proposal go in the direction I want Spec to follow:
>> platform/framework independency :)
>> I know that Nico would love to have Spec running in Amber ^^
> 
> So you'd like to run as a student for the Spec Independency project,
> which is also your proposal, so this is actually a Student proposal,
> right? :)
> 
> In any case your project can be a good one in parallel to Spec over Aida
> one. And another over Amber? That way we can evolve Spec while testing
> it in many frameworks at once. But it seems that we all need to adjust a
> terminology a bit, HTML5 terms are a bit different, those ins W3C Web
> Components spec different again, etc. Then event architecture could be
> different that one in web browser's DOM tree. Then MVC, dependency
> mechanism, how ideas from JavaScript MVC frameworks like Ember.js,
> Angular.js etc,  can be covered with Spec. In any case, pretty amusing
> projects indeed :)
> 
> Best regards
> Janko
> 
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.miv...@eranova.si
>> <mailto:janko.miv...@eranova.si>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys, would be this an interesting project to advance Smalltalk UI more
>>> toward bleeding edge again, after 30 years, when we were there already
>>> with MVC based GUI? Spec project have a potential here and Spec over web
>>> frameworks to build fully desktop-capable web apps seems to be
>>> achievable. Spec over Amber (who will propose that?), Spec over Aida,
>>> Spec over Seaside? Benjamin, would you be a co-mentor of that project?
>>> 
>>> Title: Spec over Aida for desktop-capable Web Apps
>>> 
>>> Level: advanced
>>> 
>>> Possible mentor: Janko Mivšek
>>> 
>>> Possible second mentor: Benjamin?
>>> 
>>> Description
>>> 
>>> Spec as a means to describe and generate GUI has a potential to help
>>> building web applications as well. And because one of Spec goals is to
>>> become a platform/framework independent, this project has a goal to
>>> extend Aida component model for building Single Page web apps to become
>>> Spec-aware
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Technical Details
>>> 
>>> Aida has a component model for building so called Single Page web UIs,
>>> capable of composing a hierarchy of so called web widgets, which are
>>> standalone reusable components, together with hierarchical web form
>>> support. Spec as descriptor and generator of UI is therefore a natural
>>> extension of Aida component model. When a HTML5 Web Components standard
>>> will be ready, Aida component model can be easily extended to support
>>> that standard as well, together with Spec (and maybe UIBuilder too?).
>>> 
>>> Benefits to the Student
>>> 
>>> Student will acquire the knowledge and experience of building
>>> desktop-capable UIs on the web using HTML5 approach.
>>> 
>>> Benefits to the Community
>>> 
>>> Spec has a potential to become a de-facto standard way of describing
>>> User Interfaces for Smalltalk projects from desktop to web and mobile,
>>> on a dialect and web framework neutral way. This project can contribute
>>> a piece toward that goal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Janko
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Janko Mivšek
>>> Aida/Web
>>> Smalltalk Web Application Server
>>> http://www.aidaweb.si
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Janko Mivšek
> Aida/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
> 

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