Dear Bernat,

I will be happy to add something about Scat on the website (I already added
a sentence to fix this issue).
Now, we can probably do better together.

I am sorry for this omission, I made the google code page too fast and I
have to do it better (It is on my todo list !).

You can also contact us on the phratch mailing-list:
phra...@googlegroups.com

Cheers,
Jannik




2014/1/10 Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>

> You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of
> work done by many developers all over the world and we should always
> recognise that properly, that is only fair.
>
> At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful
> for what I received and I want to give something back.
>
> Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human collaboration
> as it should be.
>
> Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably
> unintentional) omission.
>
> Sven
>
> On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I
> had to write it down.
> >
> > I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've
> noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As
> an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were
> really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people
> know that the project had been taken over by another team.
> >
> > We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with
> barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded
> screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to
> save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins
> to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere.
> >
> > The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is
> huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and
> I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who
> were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat
> when the Phratch team took over.
> >
> > I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was
> omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I
> take very seriously.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Best,
> > Bernat.
> >
> > --
> > Bernat Romagosa.
>
>
>


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