Hi Jannik,

Thanks, that's all we needed! :)

Sorry, I missed the email to the phratch list, otherwise I'd have written
there in the first place.

Cheers,
Bernat.


2014/1/10 jannik laval <jannik.la...@gmail.com>

> Dear Bernat,
>
> I will be happy to add something about Scat on the website (I already
> added a sentence to fix this issue).
> Now, we can probably do better together.
>
> I am sorry for this omission, I made the google code page too fast and I
> have to do it better (It is on my todo list !).
>
> You can also contact us on the phratch mailing-list:
> phra...@googlegroups.com
>
> Cheers,
> Jannik
>
>
>
>
> 2014/1/10 Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
>
>> You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of
>> work done by many developers all over the world and we should always
>> recognise that properly, that is only fair.
>>
>> At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful
>> for what I received and I want to give something back.
>>
>> Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human
>> collaboration as it should be.
>>
>> Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably
>> unintentional) omission.
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt
>> I had to write it down.
>> >
>> > I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've
>> noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As
>> an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were
>> really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people
>> know that the project had been taken over by another team.
>> >
>> > We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with
>> barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded
>> screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to
>> save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins
>> to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere.
>> >
>> > The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is
>> huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and
>> I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who
>> were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat
>> when the Phratch team took over.
>> >
>> > I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was
>> omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I
>> take very seriously.
>> >
>> > :)
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Bernat.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bernat Romagosa.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> ~~Jannik Laval~~
> École des Mines de Douai
> Enseignant-chercheur
> http://www.jannik-laval.eu
> http://car.mines-douai.fr/
>



-- 
Bernat Romagosa.

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