I agree with Thierry but I disagree with Alex :)
What is cool is that when you browse a widget class that you get all the
examples for this class.
Stef
I am also not a big fan of using pragmas. To me, it looks like an ad hoc
approach to have examples close to the class. In the same spirit: Why not
having tests in the same class? Would it not be cool? Of course not.
In Roassal we have a class for examples (similar to TestCase).
Alexandre
Le 22-10-2014 à 14:51, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi all,
by principle, I'd be against extending so much the pragmas... from a design
point of view they look like #defines and macros, that is an additional
language to learn, without a correct support of the tools (no debug on pragmas,
non-obvious behavior triggers, search for pragma users difficult, not
documented).
Alexandre, your idea of infering properties from the source code looks a lot
more interesting (and with a lot more potential).
Thierry
Le 22/10/2014 19:38, Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Hi!
I have doubt that #example: will be enough in the case of Roassal.
Having a code example browser is indeed important and having a descent way to
search for the examples is also important. I am thinking to stick to #example
and infer some categories from the source code (e.g., if the method contains a
Zinc class, then it may be categorized in network).
Cheers,
Alexandre
Le 22-10-2014 à 7:38, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> a écrit :
Hi Tudor,
that should be easy now: look at CompiledMethod>>#isExampleMethod which can be
adopted as needed.
Checking for the <example> pragma could be done this way:
self pragmas anySatisfy: [:pragma | pragma keyword = #example ]
but we should think first if this is enough.
I already proposed to not only annotate with a pragma <example> but
additionally give a category.
Like this:
<example: 'Graphics'>
<example: 'Network'>
This way we can easily build an example browser for our users where people can
go through
their point of interest and browse the examples.
Maybe we should also rethink pragmas (in Pharo 5.0?) in general to be more
Smalltalk
like:
<Example category: 'Graphics'>
where Example is a real class in the system (!). One can even make it more
explicit
then
<ExampleCategory graphics>
with ExampleCategory(class)>>graphics returning a translateable string. People
can add
own categories and one easily knows about already available ones.
Now that classes can have properties in Pharo 4.0 already I would like to see a
unification
for methods and classes here (with the general concept of an "Annotation" in
our metamodel).
In my opinion a method pragma is just a special form of annotating a method.
And annotating classes is usefull as well (for instance you want to annotate a
class with
the appropriate Table name in an ORM framework, ...)
A comment (in a method or in a class) is also nothing more than a special
annotation.
A class/method category is also an annotation. If unified a method or a class
could
be in one or more categories. Even a break point for an expression is IMHO just
an
annotation.
Bye
T.
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014 um 10:43 Uhr
Von: "Tudor Girba" <tu...@tudorgirba.com>
An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-...@lists.pharo.org>
Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable class side example and initialize methods in
Pharo 4.0
Hi Torsten,
Thanks for this. This is indeed the way to go.
Just to let you know, the example infrastructure is also being developed in the
context of GT, so we have a healthy interest overlap which is great. Only in our
case, the discovery of the example happens through an <example> pragma. Would
it be possible to change your slice to use this pragma instead of the example*
convention?
Cheers,
Doru
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> wrote:One
addition I implemented for Nautilus is that one can run examples directly
in the browser just by clicking on class side example methods icons.
See
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13892/Example-methods-should-be-runnable-in-Nautilus[https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13892/Example-methods-should-be-runnable-in-Nautilus]
for a picture.
SO PLEASE: WHEN YOU PROVIDE EXAMPLES IN CLASSES PLEASE PUT THEM ON THE CLASS
SIDE
AND LET THE SELECTOR START WITH "example".
This way people will easily see that it is an example and can run them.
Additionally it
would help to put them into a category like "examples". So be a good citized and
provide not only class comments but also examples for others to study.
Side note:
==========
It is also possible to click on the icon of class side initialize methods so the
class get reinitialized (after a confirmation to avoid false clicking).
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13894/Class-side-initialize-methods-should-be-runnable-in-Nautilus[https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13894/Class-side-initialize-methods-should-be-runnable-in-Nautilus]
Both issues are already integrated.
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