Glad to hear is much better than I assumed. About iOS vs Androids, I have both. Each one focus on different things. Neither really excites personally.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:44 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> can you resize the pharo windows ? I saw you struggle with it there >> >> It also looks like its crawling there , which iPad is this , which >> generation ? >> > > This is an iPad2. Pure Morphic is fine, what is not is Nautilus. I guess > with AltBrowser it would be fine. > > I've had a game I wrote for kids (internal stuff done for my wife's kids > help practice) and it was fine with drag and drop and all. > > Now for games on iOS I do use Monkey-X. But I'd love to have a Pharo set > of classes that would be gaming specific. We could have very fast plugins > for all the game engine and script it with Pharo. Kind of what one does > with Lua. > > The touch paradigm is different from what one can do on a desktop. It is > not that Pharo has to work on an iPad. What would be nicer is to have an > image running on it and to which one would connect remotely for remote > coding. > > What I was interested in with the bluetooth keyboard project is to see how > to have a kind of dynabook style thing. But Apple has crippled a lot of > things, like for an external keyboard support like this one has to use > internal undocumented APIs for the gsEvents and this will prevent anything > to go to the AppStore. And then one sees apps like iAWriter which has such > keyboard support, that's weird. > > Also, as a result, you realize that there is no ESC key on an iPad, that > you miss a ton of keys that you take for granted on a desktop. > Also, all keyboard scancodes are different in various brands and it is a > true ball of knots. No wonder Apple has one supersimplified protocol for > input that prevents your from doing powerful keyboard based things. Meh. > > Long story short, Android looks much better in that regard, and that's > where I am looking at these days. > > I've got a new Galaxy Alpha Octocore thing and frankly, it blows any > iPhone 6 out of the water. I am done with iOS I'd say. > When going to places, there are so much more Android devices than > iDevices... These Android things are like the beige boxes of the 90's. > You know who won at the time. > > So, next holidays, I'll have a look at CogDroid from JB. When one can buy > a full quad core stick PC with 2G of RAM and 8G of storage for less than > $50, well, choice is clear. > > An old example: > http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/mini-pcs/mk808-android-mini-pc > > That's where I want Pharo to run. > > Phil > > >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:09 AM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> >> wrote: >> >>> Pharo on iPad. >>> >>> http://youtu.be/7MNsUiCc5FQ >>> Le 10 déc. 2014 21:26, "dboeren" <boer...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> Now that my image is working properly again and the fires have been put >>>> out, >>>> I wanted to introduce myself a bit better... >>>> >>>> My name is David Boeren. I first learned Smalltalk back in college many >>>> years ago, we used Smalltalk V in an object oriented programming class I >>>> took which was first-half Smalltalk, second-half C++. This would be >>>> about >>>> 1992 I think? In recent years I've mainly been using Java, with >>>> occasional >>>> Python dabblings. I remember installing Squeak once or twice over the >>>> years, but to be honest it felt a bit clunky, perhaps this was just an >>>> early >>>> primitive version or whatever. >>>> >>>> Recently, I've been getting the itch to try out some different >>>> languages. I >>>> was kind of looking at Scala or Clojure, one co-worker suggested >>>> Erlang, and >>>> so forth. But after doing a brief review I ended up coming back to >>>> Smalltalk which even after all these years still stands right up with >>>> the >>>> cutting edge I think. Sure, there are a few things that I think would >>>> be a >>>> little different if it were designed today like tuple support or >>>> whatever, >>>> but it feels like the right choice for something I'm going to use >>>> mainly for >>>> "fun" projects and the interactive environment is awesome. >>>> >>>> >>>> One thing I wanted to ask about is the status of getting Pharo running >>>> on >>>> iOS (or at least iPad). I found some old posts but nothing much within >>>> the >>>> last couple of years. I know there were app store policy issues in the >>>> past >>>> but I think that Apple has opened things up a bit since then, you can >>>> now >>>> get Pythonista in the app store, or Codea. Is there still an obstacle >>>> or is >>>> it just something that hasn't been gotten around to yet? I'd love to >>>> get it >>>> running on my iPad Mini and be able to transmit code back and forth >>>> between >>>> there and my laptop to work on it wherever I'm at. >>>> >>>> >>>> Second, I'm running into an oddity and I'm not sure what I'm doing >>>> wrong or >>>> whether this is a bug of some sort, this has to do with trying to >>>> replace >>>> unicode characters in a string which seems like it should be a >>>> straightforward operation. Here is my code: >>>> >>>> "Fetch the raw JSON data from dtdb.co" >>>> response := 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl retrieveContents >>>> asString. >>>> >>>> "Clean up the data a bit to make it a little more regular" >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: 'null' with: '""'. >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: '\u2022' with: ','. >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: '\u009e' with: 'e'. >>>> >>>> Basically I'm just pulling some JSON data and then doing a few string >>>> replacements to make the data suit my needs. The first one works. The >>>> second one works. Since the third one ALSO uses a \uXXXX code I would >>>> expect it to work too, but it does not - the accented characters are >>>> still >>>> there. >>>> >>>> To get a bit more visibility into this, I copied the CopyReplaceAll code >>>> from SequenceableCollection into a scratch class method and adding some >>>> Transcript output: >>>> >>>> copyReplaceIn: aString All: oldSubCollection with: newCollection >>>> "Answer a copy of the receiver in which all occurrences of >>>> oldSubCollection have been replaced by newCollection " >>>> >>>> | startSearch currentIndex endIndex | >>>> >>>> Transcript show: 'start' ; cr. >>>> startSearch := 1. >>>> [(currentIndex := aString indexOfSubCollection: oldSubCollection >>>> startingAt: startSearch) > 0] >>>> whileTrue: [ >>>> Transcript show: 'Found at index ' ; show: >>>> currentIndex ; cr. >>>> endIndex := currentIndex + oldSubCollection >>>> size - 1. >>>> aString := aString >>>> copyReplaceFrom: currentIndex >>>> to: endIndex >>>> with: newCollection. >>>> startSearch := currentIndex + >>>> newCollection size]. >>>> Transcript show: 'done' ; cr. >>>> ^ aString >>>> >>>> A minimal test seemed to work: >>>> HelloWorld copyReplaceIn: 'R\u00e9my Lapointe' All: '\u00e9' with: 'e'. >>>> >>>> start >>>> Found at index 2 >>>> done >>>> >>>> Testing this with the real data worked too: >>>> HelloWorld copyReplaceIn: ('http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl >>>> retrieveContents asString) All: '\u00e9' with: 'e'. >>>> start >>>> Found at index 22379 >>>> Found at index 22500 >>>> done >>>> >>>> >>>> However, when I went back to using the regular copyReplaceAll:With: >>>> method >>>> it does not work and I'm not sure why. When it executes this: >>>> aString indexOfSubCollection: oldSubCollection startingAt: startSearch >>>> >>>> The value comes back as 0 even though it's the same data from >>>> 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl retrieveContents asString (I added a >>>> "self >>>> halt" to be able to step into the method and view the variable values), >>>> and >>>> I'm not sure what the difference is. There shouldn't be a limit on the >>>> size >>>> of the collection, should there? The whole thing is around 116k which >>>> is >>>> big but not ridiculously so. It is however big enough that the debugger >>>> can't show the whole value, or at least I haven't found a way to do so. >>>> >>>> >>>> And last, is there a good video tutorial for the Pharo beginner on how >>>> to >>>> use the various browsers, debugger, tools, etc... that come with >>>> Pharo? I >>>> would like to start learning more about the best ways to use these in my >>>> development processes. I'm also having a lot of trouble finding the >>>> correct >>>> classes and message for what I want to do, searching online w/ Google >>>> often >>>> seem to turn up outdated information (or for a different smalltalk >>>> flavor) >>>> and it can take a while to figure out the correct way to do things. Is >>>> there a good central reference for the APIs somewhere? I know that you >>>> can >>>> search in the browser but I usually don't know the name to search for. >>>> It >>>> would be good to have a handy reference detailing how to do all the >>>> commonplace stuff. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://forum.world.st/New-Pharo-user-some-questions-tp4795325.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > > -- > --- > Philippe Back > Visible Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium > > Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ > Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - > http://spamcast.libsyn.com > Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value > Added Reseller > > >
