+1
All Pharo discussions have taken place on this mailing for a long time.
Even after starting pharo-users, for people who were already longtime
readers of this list favored this list for any and all discussions
concerning Pharo. It will be a culture shift for longtime Pharo users,
lurkers. It will take some effort and some time but it would be
worthwhile for the long term health of the community. I think it would
be a good thing to start encouraging off pharo-dev topic posts toward
pharo-users and begin the culture change.
-1 on StackOverflow
Every time I search for something I am trying to learn or discover and I
find a question exactly matching what I want to know. It it shut down by
the moderators. What I want to know is valid. But it doesn't match their
limited view of the world so it gets moderated. I continue searching
elsewhere because it is still information I need and an answer I want
even if SO doesn't find it valid. Ugh!
Looking at the Pharo section on SO I find it states that there are 436
messages tagged with Pharo.
When I do this search on Google: "closed as" pharo
site:stackoverflow.com I get 288 results.
closed as off-topic, closed as not constructive, closed as primarily
opinion based, closed as too broad, ...
Example:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27757766/how-to-wrap-a-morph-into-a-window-in-pharo-v3
This person asked a question and it was closed. But guess what. I
imagine they still really wanted an answer. Even it it doesn't fit SO's
format.
And mostly (my guess from what I saw) closed by people who are not part
of this community. SO they are imposing their community rules on our
community. I am not real big on that.
I also find SO not as good for building community. Community is very
important. Especially for smaller groups like Pharo. I haven't spent a
lot of time here in a while. But all of the long time readers will be
familiar with who I am. The new readers not yet. I can jump in on this
list and read new stuff and am familiar with the players. This is a
great asset.
I have explored learning F#. One of things I have struggled with is
where is the community? Where do I engage in conversation?
I love that Pharo has a central location for community. These mailing
lists. If I have a question. If I want to have a conversation. I know
where to do so. I do not want to see that fragmented into mailing list +
whatever forum some other person happens to like for the moment. And you
can't have this conversation on SO. Or many others which happen here.
Just my opinion and my experience. It is worth what you paid. :)
Jimmie
On 1/15/2015 1:24 AM, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read.
We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev
this is important
for our concentration.
I really like the other discussions but we should have them in
Pharo-users.
I think that it makes sense.
Stef
