Hi, I think this is an interesting use case, and it is already supported only in a less classic way :).
I just wrote a blog post about it: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-external-pharo-scripts-with-gtinspector-and-gtspotter/ Let me know if this works for you. Cheers, Doru On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> wrote: > > Le 3 mai 2015 12:28, "Esteban Lorenzano" <esteba...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > >> On 02 May 2015, at 23:28, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > >> > >> When some sysadmin has to edit them on servers, you want them in .st > files. > >> > >> No class. No IDE. Not too much Smalltalk. > > > > > > but then > > - if not smalltalk, the scripts should not be in the image… even in > workspaces > > - if the sysadmin has to edit them, he can always do something like: > > > > #! /bin/bash > > > > pharo MyImage.image eval “ > > my > > multilined > > more or less smalltalk > > script” > > > > - you can always see and edit your scripts by doing: > > > > 'play-cache' asFileReference inspect > > > > (instead ‘play-cache’ you can put: ‘my-script-folder’, whatever) > > > > and you will have a complete inspector that allows you to see and edit > your scripts (who are in the file system, where a sysadmin can find them, > and not in an obscure workspace). > > > > also I bet you would take no more than 5’ to add functionality to > gtinspector (it is designed to be moldable, after all) to add new scripts, > and no matter what other functionality you need… and the result will be a > lot more “pharoish” than storing it in a workspace. > > I agree to these things for the Pharoish experience. > > Just that those scripts are to be edited with Vim on remote boxes. > > I don't want to convert a sysadmin to pharo. > > I want pharo to be used as any other tool in the lineup. > > My image builder is fullly in a class etc. > > Also I am using Sebastian Sastre's ConfigurationFiles that do load > conf/SomeConfFile.st > > I have several such files: > > - email addresses > - mongodb conf > - seaside ports, debug level.. > - API config > - configuration file for a tree structure > - preferences > > These are using code that get eval'd because it is practical to use > variables etc. > > e.g. > > defaultBandwidth := 50 megabitsPerSecond. > > .... > > #(10 20 30 40) do: [:id | > config add: SomeModule new bandwidth: defaultBandwidth; id: id asString; > label: 'SomeLab', is asString; picture:'some.jpg'; geoLocation: 45.55@44.42; > yourself] > > .... > > ^config > > I am preparing them in with Playground etc. > > So nothing wrong with Playground. > > I just like the simple workspace too. > > I also added a : prefix in Spotlight to execute what I do type. > > Going 4.0 is not yet done here. > I am using 3.0 with GToolkit. > > Phil > > > > > Esteban > > > > > >> Just the DSL on an as needed to know basis to configure things. > >> > >> That's better that XML/YAML/JSON... > >> > >> So, that's the case. > >> > >> Startup scripts same story. > >> > >> Phil > >> > >> Le 2 mai 2015 17:56, "Esteban Lorenzano" <esteba...@gmail.com> a > écrit : > >>> > >>> well… IMO those scripts also should be in a method. > >>> Probably under a class named: MyCoolProjectRunScripts or something > like that… but in a class. > >>> If they are in a class you can: > >>> - save them with your project > >>> - version them > >>> - if you add <script> pragma, you can even execute them by clicking on > it (Pharo 4). > >>> > >>> so… even if you might have a case where you want the save/load… you > actually have (what I consider) a better option. > >>> > >>> Esteban > >>> > >>>> On 02 May 2015, at 15:17, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Ditto here. > >>>> > >>>> I have cron tasks that fire a smalltak script, the startup script > itself or a small import script that doesn't belong to a class. All those > are my cases for the workspace. > >>>> > >>>> El may 2, 2015 4:38 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> > escribió: > >>>>> > >>>>> playground cache is actually not nice when scripts are to be part of > a project with a name etc. And I have a ton of files in it. I can't > remember which is which. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have scripts to do lots of cli things and I like the save as of > the workspace. > >>>>> > >>>>> But I have done extra key bindings for getting the ws or the > playground. > >>>>> > >>>>> Phil > >>>>> > >>>>> Le 2 mai 2015 06:49, "Sergio Fedi" <sergio.f...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Oh! That link gives a GREAT explanation! Thanks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On the subject of how to show it better, I'm not a graphic designer > (although I'm working with one) > >>>>>> so I'll ask him for some insights on the matter. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For now, he pointed out some issues like lack of consistency on > some interfaces > >>>>>> and some other details. > >>>>>> > >>> > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
