Hi,

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which one 
> was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k sound 
> normal to me. 
> 
> Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care to 
> modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more features 
> that make my work easier. 
> 
> Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of C 
> involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM and 
> low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image. 

I only counted the rb files, not the C ones (see the script) :)

Doru



> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax may 
> > be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code
> > which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at 
> > least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions.
> 
> 
> Just for reference, Pharo 5 has:
> Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode “515500"
> 
> This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + 
> compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency 
> system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be quite 
> small in the end :).
> 
> But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniform”. This is what in the 
> end makes it seem “Small”.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> 
> > You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :)
> >
> > Great work
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:
> > Hi Stephan,
> >
> > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <step...@stack.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together
> > >
> > > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7
> > >
> > > Stephan
> >
> > Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate how 
> > you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively simple 
> > and clear text — that takes a lot of work.
> >
> > Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' publication 
> > [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a submission and I would 
> > love to add it.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
> 
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