Yes we know that we should improve the windows part.
We agree. Now I do not know how to create money.
Stef
Just asking,
Did someone already tried to get funding to update the Windows VM?
Because it's like the 90% of the world still uses Windows...
Regards,
Hernán
2017-03-02 12:51 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>:
Hi Raffaello,
Reportedly, the VM without the JIT (pure interpreter, also called
PharoS or StackVM) works on windows 64 and FFI works with it if the VM
compiled with clang but not with gcc. >>There is no configuration for
Pharo right now. It should not be hard to add a pharo configuration to
have the image start-up, but I don't think several libraries such as
Athens/>>Cairo or libgit would work out of the box, so it's not clear
such a configuration would make a lot of sense. There is no
PharoS-spur64 repository on files.pharo.org right now >>either.
Windows support is not ready mostly because:
- Some C types are different in x64 between Unix and windows
- Calling conventions are different in x64 bits between Unix and Windows
Calling conventions have impact in switching between the interpreter
and the JIT runtime and in FFI.
C types being different have impact for the VM compilation and in FFI.
If someone looks into it, I guess in a day of work we could have the
Stack VM working with Spur 64 for Pharo without support for some
librairies. There might be uncommon >>crashes to fix over the first
week of use. With several more weeks of work (maybe a couple months),
the StackVM with all libraries should be production-ready. The JIT
support >>will take more time, hopefully it will be done in a year from
now.
Maybe I should mention that the company who funded 64 bits support is
using the VM on Mac for development and Linux for production, so
Windows was not a priority and >>not done. We have to rely on
open-source contributors, non paid, to add Windows support and that
takes time. Nicolas Cellier added the support for the 64 bits Stack VM
on >>his free time. If someone is investing money, the 64 bits Windows
VM could reach production sooner (I guess within 6 months) because
someone could work full time on it.
Regards,
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM, <raffaello.giulie...@lifeware.ch> wrote:
On 07/02/17 07:13, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
On 6 Feb 2017, at 21:41, Cyril Ferlicot D.
<cyril.ferli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 06/02/2017 à 21:31, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a écrit :
Hi!
IIRC, the windows VM will need some more time to be ready. Only Linux
and OSX ones are usable at the moment.
^ this.
as Cyril says, win 64bits vm is still not ready (and it will take
some more time to be).
Esteban
Just for general curiosity, what are the main stumbling blocks in the
road to a Windows 64 bit Pharo?
Raffaello
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