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On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Steffen Märcker <merk...@web.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> attached are updated file-outs. I fixed a couple of annoyances that
> slipped through yesterday evening. Most notable:
>
> 1) Random generator now works.
> 2) Early termination via Reduced exception does MNU anymore.
> 3) Printing a transducer holding a block does not MNU anymore.
>
> Please, give it a spin and tell me your impressions. (At least) The
> coin-flipping the example from the package comment works now:
>
> scale := [:x | (x * 2 + 1) floor] map.
> sides := #(heads tails) replace.
> count := 1000 take.
> collect := [:bag :c | bag add: c; yourself].
> experiment := (scale * sides * count) transform: collect.
> "experiment cannot be re-used"
> samples := Random new
>               reduce: experiment
>               init: Bag new.
> "transform and reduce in one step"
> samples := Random new
>               transduce: scale * sides * count
>               reduce: collect
>               init: Bag new.
> "assemble coin (eduction) and flip (reduction) objects"
> coin := sides <~ scale <~ Random new.
> flip := Bag <~ count.
> "flip coin =)"
> samples := flip <~ coin.
>
> Cheers!
> Steffen
>
>
>
> Am .06.2017, 23:08 Uhr, schrieb Steffen Märcker <merk...@web.de>:
>
> Thanks, this appears to work.  Attached you'll find the file-out from
>> VisualWorks and the file-out from Pharo (includes package comment).
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Steffen
>>
>>
>> Am .06.2017, 20:06 Uhr, schrieb Yanni Chiu <yanni.c...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> To get the extension methods into the Transducers package, the following
>>> worked for me - edit the category to have the prefix '*Transducers-'
>>>
>>> 2710c2710
>>>
>>> < !Number methodsFor: 'transforming' stamp: ' 2/6/17 15:38'!
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> !Number methodsFor: '*Transducers-transforming' stamp: ' 2/6/17 15:38'!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Steffen Märcker <merk...@web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the many suggestions. I didn't had time to test all
>>>> import/export ways yet. But for now, I can report on two:
>>>>
>>>> 1) NGFileOuter
>>>> Unfortunately It raised several MNUs in my image. I'll investigate them
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> 2) FileOut30 (VW Contributed)
>>>> I was able to file out the code except for the package definition.
>>>> Replacing {category: ''} in the class definitions with {package:
>>>> 'Transducers'} fixed that. However, methods that extend existing classes
>>>> did not end up in the Transducers package. Is there a similar easy
>>>> change
>>>> to the file-out making that happen? Also I'd like to add the package
>>>> comment if that's possible.
>>>>
>>>> Most things appear to work as far as I can see. Two exceptions:
>>>> 1) Random is a subclass of Stream in VW and in Pharo it is not. Hence,
>>>> I'll have to copy some methods from Stream to Random.
>>>> 2) I used #beImmutable in VW but I couldn't yet figure out how to make
>>>> objects immutable in Pharo.
>>>>
>>>> However, until the tests are ported, I cannot guarantee. Porting the
>>>> test
>>>> suite will be another beast, since I rely on the excellent
>>>> mocking/stubbing
>>>> library DoubleAgents by Randy Coulman. I am not sure how I will handle
>>>> that. In general, I think it would be really worth the effort to be
>>>> ported
>>>> to Pharo, too. DoubleAgents is pretty powerful and produces easy to read
>>>> and understand mocking/stubbing code. Personally, I prefer it clearly,
>>>> e.g., over Mocketry (no offence intended!).
>>>>
>>>> Attached you'll find the file-out that I loaded into Pharo. The issues
>>>> above are not addressed yet. However, the following example works:
>>>>
>>>> | scale sides count collect experiment random samples coin flip |
>>>> scale := [:x | (x * 2 + 1) floor] map.
>>>> sides := #(heads tails) replace.
>>>> count := 1000 take.
>>>> collect := [:bag :c | bag add: c; yourself].
>>>> experiment := (scale * sides * count) transform: collect.
>>>> random := #(0.1 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9).
>>>>
>>>> samples := random
>>>>               reduce: experiment
>>>>               init: Bag new.
>>>>
>>>> samples := random
>>>>               transduce: scale * sides * count
>>>>               reduce: collect
>>>>               init: Bag new.
>>>>
>>>> coin := sides <~ scale <~ random.
>>>> flip := Bag <~ count.
>>>>
>>>> samples := flip <~ coin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best, Steffen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am .06.2017, 08:16 Uhr, schrieb Stephane Ducasse
>>>> <stepharo.s...@gmail.com
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>> There is a package for that NGFileOuter or something like that on cincom
>>>>
>>>>> store.
>>>>> We used it for mobydic code.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel <
>>>>> alexandre.ber...@me.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If I remember correctly, there is a parcel in VisualWorks to export a
>>>>> file
>>>>>
>>>>>> out (Squeak format).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Milton, can you give a hand to Steffen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 31, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Steffen Märcker <merk...@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the encouraging response! First question: Which is the
>>>>>> recommended (friction free) way to exchange code between VW and Pharo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Steffen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am .05.2017, 16:22 Uhr, schrieb Alexandre Bergel <
>>>>>> alexandre.ber...@me.com
>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I second Sven. This is very exciting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let us know when you have something ready to be tested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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