I too have dealt with a couple of similar situations where the poor packing was 
to blame for a partial or total loss of the shipped item. The shipper will 
never pay in such a situation and the sellers always claim it was not their 
fault. I've had machines placed in a totally empty box with very little or even 
no packing and the seller says it wasn't their fault. Money, on my part as the 
buyer, has always been lost in such cases. In one such case I didn't even get 
the machine back. USPS claimed they sent it back to the seller and the seller 
claimed they never got it. Neither party would take any responsibility. Guess 
who did "get it" in this situation???
Oh well just the "fun" of EBAY I guess.
Enough said,
George
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Danckaert 
  To: Antique Phonograph List 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal


  I had just that happen on a music box I bought in England.  I paid for 
  shipping and insurance.  It was poorly packed.  So much so, that the 
  bedplate casting was broken in three places, every tooth on the combs 
  was broken and the case was demolished.  The seller accepted no 
  responsibility and said it was mine the moment he got my money.  The 
  shipper would not pay on the insurance nor would the seller pay up.  I 
  hounded him for two years on the internet whenever he tried to sell 
  anything.  His reputation was in the mud.  Eventually, he gave me back 
  my money.  I believe there are a lot of people like him out there.

  Ken D.

  Jim Nichol wrote:

  > I find it pretty amazing that any decent person would sell something  
  > that arrived broken, and keep the buyer's money. What goes through  
  > the mind of a person like that? Surely he can't be thinking the buyer  
  > is to blame, or that it is the buyer's job to go after the shipper  
  > (which can't be done).
  >
  > Jim Nichol
  >
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