In a message dated 3/9/2008 7:45:42 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Dear  John,
The box the attachment came in is marked "Edison Needle-Cut  Attachment" &
the soundbox (reproducer) has what appears to be an  aluminum diaphragm.  
Its case is nickel plated & on the back it  says in  letters "EDISON" in
smaller letters it says"Orange, N.J.,"  & "Made
in U.S.A."    There is also a facsimile of Edison's  famous signature.  On
the front there is a large script "E" on the  diaphragm cover over the
stylus bar & a cut out ligthtening bolt cut on  either side. 
On a twelve inch 78, when I lower the horn to engage the feed  gear in the
far right position by the time the record has played the horn  has
swung to the left & the tracking is absolutely terrible.   
Does anyone have instructions put out by the Edison company for using  this
attachment when was obviously manufactured by them & probably  included with
the Edison models?


Hi Jim,
The reproducer you describe was made for the early  "uncatalogued" needle-cut 
portables and is a beautifully made reproducer.   The machines themselves 
were made by the "Prime" manufacturing Co. and I think  the reproducer was 
certainly Edison-made.  But I was not aware that the  Edison Co. actually made 
the 
adapter to enable needle-cut records to be played  on a diamond disc machine.  
There was an adapter made by Edison in 1914 as  noted in Frow's book but it 
apparently was removed after 1 year.  And the  reproducer that you describe 
wasn't made until 1928 or 1929.  A picture of  your adapter and box would be 
great. It would be very interesting to see whether  Edison created another 
adapter 
in 1928 or later.
 
---Art Heller
 



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From [email protected]  Sun Mar  9 23:48:17 2008
From: [email protected] (Robert Wright)
Date: Sun Mar  9 23:48:36 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Shellac records and damage from steel needles
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

It would stand to reason that once Edison had started manufacturing 
needle-cut discs, an adapter would've followed.  What I don't know is when 
the needle-cuts began coming out, or if there were any 12" needle-cuts 
issued.  I bring up the 12" issues because Edison himself doesn't seem like 
the type who would EVER have designed and issued an adapter to play anyone 
else's records (even if the company issued one in 1914), and if the later 
needle-cut adapter (assuming that's what it is) was designed to play a 
series of records that were never issued in 12" size, then perhaps there's 
no reliable way to use this later adapter to play anything but 10".  Just 
throwing some ideas out there.

Best,
Robert


----- Original Message ----- 
> Hi Jim,
> The reproducer you describe was made for the early  "uncatalogued" 
> needle-cut
> portables and is a beautifully made reproducer.   The machines themselves
> were made by the "Prime" manufacturing Co. and I think  the reproducer was
> certainly Edison-made.  But I was not aware that the  Edison Co. actually 
> made the
> adapter to enable needle-cut records to be played  on a diamond disc 
> machine.
> There was an adapter made by Edison in 1914 as  noted in Frow's book but 
> it
> apparently was removed after 1 year.  And the  reproducer that you 
> describe
> wasn't made until 1928 or 1929.  A picture of  your adapter and box would 
> be
> great. It would be very interesting to see whether  Edison created another 
> adapter
> in 1928 or later.
>
> ---Art Heller 

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