Thanks for your interesting comment on the Vogues.  I agree with you on the 
reason for the drop in value of the Wurlitzer 1015, but I am not so sure the 
same argument applies to the Vogues.  The 1015's were bought and sold as 
entertainment devices, and the bars, etc. that bought them for 45s and CDs 
could care less if they were original or reproduction machines.  On the 
other hand, vogues were generally not bought for their music content, but 
rather as vintage collectibles.  Prior to eBay, collectors considered them 
to be "scarce" items, and most record collectors, I would think, would have 
little interest in the reproductions.  Once eBay demonstrated to the hobby 
that they were rather plentiful, the prices started to drop to the current 
low values.  I don't know how well the reproduction Vogues are doing these 
days, but I don't see them advertised very much (although I don't look for 
them).  Whatever the reason for the price decline, Vogues don't look like 
good investments these days :)

Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert" <cen...@comcast.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values


> Ray, I think Ebay actually raised the value of vogues and there was a lot 
> of
> activity for a long time on ebay. Many hit the market and it was not 
> unusual
> to see them go for more than $100.   But the prices started dropping 
> quickly
> when a lot of reproduction Vogues hit the market.  The repros looked 
> pretty
> good and they were copies of some of the more desireable numbers.  I 
> compare
> that to the Wurlitzer 1015 where originals used to sell for $12,000.  With
> the huge number of reproduction 1015s that played 45's and CD;s the value 
> of
> originals dropped to $5000 to 6000.  I may be wrong but I dont think it 
> was
> Ebay so much as the proliferation of reproductions.  Al Menashe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <wilenzick at bellsouth.net>
> To: <phonolist at yahoogroups.com>; <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:55 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
>
>
>> Around 10 to 15 years ago, most Vogues (except the rare 8 or 9 ones) sold
>> in the neighborhood of $100 or so.  With the advent of eBay, their value
>> has dropped significantly.  It seems that most go for $20-$30 or less
>> these days.  Value guides were available at one time, but now are
>> worthless.  Are there any Vogue collectors on the list that would have a
>> spreadsheet or other information on current values of these picture
>> records?  Is there a factor, such as 1/4 or 1/3 that could be applied to
>> the old values that would approximate the current value?  Thanks for any
>> information..
>>
>> Ray Wilenzick
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